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Get rid of the sound card... You need a much higher end card to hear any difference in sound quality over the on board sound on your mobo. Unless you have some reference style audiophile headphones, there is no need for anything more on board sound. However, if you do have some higher quality headphones, I will have a better option for you in a second.

Ram: Gskill trident X memory. 41,26. It is a tad bit faster and slightly cheaper than what VW_TDI_02 picked out.


HDD: Seagate 1TB 64mb cache at 7200 RPM 74,13. The drive is slightly faster and is

PSU: Thermaltake 630W PSU I can't figure out how many 12v rails this has, but it is still a good PSU for 50 euros.

Case: NZXT 210 elite 44,84 This has much better airflow, and a USB 3.0 port. That means you can add This belkin card reader for only 7 more euros. Lastly, you won't have to spend any money on fans because the included fans are actually very good and that is all your will really need for your setup. In the end you spend 53 euros which would save you an extra 51 euros and you still get all the great features of your previous setup smile.gif.

At this point you are down to 960 euros.

Now if you absolutely need a sound card. Then just buy the asus maximus v gene mobo. Here is my reasoning.... the gene mobo has a dedicated section of the mobo for sound and the quality is actually a bit better than the sound card you have picked out and it even offers 7.1 audio where as the asus card only offers 5.1. Now some people would be turned off by the mATX form factor, but if your think about getting the asrock board, you will only have access to the same number of expansion ports because you have already used one up on your sound card. The asus board is actually a better board too. More features, higher quality parts and engineering, and a better warranty are all included on the gene board.

Now you would be spending 20 euros more, but you get better sound quality, more mobo and sound features, a much better board for overclocking, and you aren't losing any useful connectivity and it would still only bring your up to 1010 euros smile.gif. It is like a win win win win situation.

If you realize that on board audio will work just fine, I would suggest throwing in an SSD for another 100 euros. It would break your budget of 1000 euros, but it would be worth it.
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Get rid of the sound card... You need a much higher end card to hear any difference in sound quality over the on board sound on your mobo. Unless you have some reference style audiophile headphones, there is no need for anything more on board sound. However, if you do have some higher quality headphones, I will have a better option for you in a second.
Ram: Gskill trident X memory. 41,26. It is a tad bit faster and slightly cheaper than what VW_TDI_02 picked out.
HDD: Seagate 1TB 64mb cache at 7200 RPM 74,13. The drive is slightly faster and is
PSU: Thermaltake 630W PSU I can't figure out how many 12v rails this has, but it is still a good PSU for 50 euros.
Case: NZXT 210 elite 44,84 This has much better airflow, and a USB 3.0 port. That means you can add This belkin card reader for only 7 more euros. Lastly, you won't have to spend any money on fans because the included fans are actually very good and that is all your will really need for your setup. In the end you spend 53 euros which would save you an extra 51 euros and you still get all the great features of your previous setup smile.gif.
At this point you are down to 960 euros.
Now if you absolutely need a sound card. Then just buy the asus maximus v gene mobo. Here is my reasoning.... the gene mobo has a dedicated section of the mobo for sound and the quality is actually a bit better than the sound card you have picked out and it even offers 7.1 audio where as the asus card only offers 5.1. Now some people would be turned off by the mATX form factor, but if your think about getting the asrock board, you will only have access to the same number of expansion ports because you have already used one up on your sound card. The asus board is actually a better board too. More features, higher quality parts and engineering, and a better warranty are all included on the gene board.
Now you would be spending 20 euros more, but you get better sound quality, more mobo and sound features, a much better board for overclocking, and you aren't losing any useful connectivity and it would still only bring your up to 1010 euros smile.gif. It is like a win win win win situation.
If you realize that on board audio will work just fine, I would suggest throwing in an SSD for another 100 euros. It would break your budget of 1000 euros, but it would be worth it.

Actually that sound card will make a difference. I have one myself and the built in amp makes a large difference.

The Caviar Black is faster then the Seagate...

The number of rails doesn't matter. There are a few Thermaltake units in that wattage area and that's not one of them.

The dedicated sound card is better then the max V gene due to the head phone amp which is necessary for most cans. Also I'm doubtful that the OP is going to use 5.1 let alone 7.1 surround. Pair that with some flac audio and you're golden.

I do agree with getting that RAM. Didn't see that one when I did a quick look over.

Case is pretty subjective based on the style the OP likes.

[edit]
OP if you want to get an SSD I would recommend dropping down the hard drive to a cheaper 5400 RPM drive will work just fine for storage and then between everything you might be able to squeeze in a 64gb OS boot drive. Some people say that's not enough but that's dumb for a boot drive with a few extra programs. I have one right now and I have 39.5gb out of 59.5gb unused. That includes Microsoft Office, Windows, and a few other programs.
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+1 on the ssd, Its so much better value for money over a sound card, The on board sound of these new motherboards is actually very good. If you can get both then great if not get the ssd

The thermaltake 630w psu mentioned above is also very good for it's price point

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermaltake-Smart-630-W-Power-Supply-Review/1481/1
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+1 on the ssd, Its so much better value for money over a sound card, The on board sound of these new motherboards is actually very good. If you can get both then great if not get the ssd
The thermaltake 630w psu mentioned above is also very good for it's price point
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermaltake-Smart-630-W-Power-Supply-Review/1481/1

Compared to some of the other ones it's pretty meh. It's cheaper then the others but will due the job.
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I adjusted the RAM, the HDD and the card reader.

The PSU isn't modular...

What about the Cooler Master Elite 430 case? I've read good things about it. It doesn't have USB 3.0 but i don't need that at the front.

A SSD will be my last concern.
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Actually that sound card will make a difference. I have one myself and the built in amp makes a large difference.
The Caviar Black is faster then the Seagate...
The number of rails doesn't matter. There are a few Thermaltake units in that wattage area and that's not one of them.
The dedicated sound card is better then the max V gene due to the head phone amp which is necessary for most cans. Also I'm doubtful that the OP is going to use 5.1 let alone 7.1 surround. Pair that with some flac audio and you're golden.
I do agree with getting that RAM. Didn't see that one when I did a quick look over.
Case is pretty subjective based on the style the OP likes.
[edit]
OP if you want to get an SSD I would recommend dropping down the hard drive to a cheaper 5400 RPM drive will work just fine for storage and then between everything you might be able to squeeze in a 64gb OS boot drive. Some people say that's not enough but that's dumb for a boot drive with a few extra programs. I have one right now and I have 39.5gb out of 59.5gb unused. That includes Microsoft Office, Windows, and a few other programs.

I think i'll go with the Seagate for the price. It's not a big difference, is it?

Yup, .flac, straight from the CD's!

Yes, i like the style of the Bitfenix a lot. I know it's kind of retarded but i'm thinking of chosing another case.
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I adjusted the RAM, the HDD and the card reader.
The PSU isn't modular...
What about the Cooler Master Elite 430 case? I've read good things about it. It doesn't have USB 3.0 but i don't need that at the front.
A SSD will be my last concern.
I think i'll go with the Seagate for the price. It's not a big difference, is it?
Yup, .flac, straight from the CD's!
Yes, i like the style of the Bitfenix a lot. I know it's kind of retarded but i'm thinking of chosing another case.

No there isn't much of a difference so if you want to go with the seagate then you can save a bit of money. What's the new list looking like?
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No there isn't much of a difference so if you want to go with the seagate then you can save a bit of money. What's the new list looking like?

You mean the price? I'm waiting for a respond about the Cooler Master Elite 430.

Or if anyone has a suggestion, i like black, simple, windowed cases.
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You mean the price? I'm waiting for a respond about the Cooler Master Elite 430.
Or if anyone has a suggestion, i like black, simple, windowed cases.

Get the 430 , I have it and i love it as much as my storm scout
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You mean the price? I'm waiting for a respond about the Cooler Master Elite 430.
Or if anyone has a suggestion, i like black, simple, windowed cases.
For the price it is pretty hard to beat. The 430 has the painted interior and has a lot of the most useful features. Solid case.
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I don't know about the PSU and the case. I like modular PSU's and cases that look clean and have cable management. I know i can spare some money on that.

Edit: I just noticed that the G.Skill Trident set is 4GB in total. People recommended me going with 8 GB because RAM is cheap.

Edit2: The total price is 1040 with 8gb g.skill ripjaws, corsair 650w modular and bitfenix shinobi windowed
Edited by yezz12 - 8/2/12 at 11:03am
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