[tV] How Microsoft plans to teach the world to use Windows 8 - Page 6

I went into Win 8 completely unaware of the changes and after few week (during which i might add i was TRYING to get used to it) i came to the following conclusion:
Win 8 on the tablets = pure win , I'd love to have Metro on tablet.
Win8 on desktop in ( current state) total mistake , absolutely horrible , all the improvements under the hood are clouded by horrible ,crappy mtero UI which has no place on desktop.

I'm glad I sound like someone with that much marketing expertise. Windows 8 is a desktop experience "through and through". You lose your credibility in every Windows 8 thread, because you drive and drive that same nail (Metro + Desktop). We get it you don't like what Windows 8 has to offer, move on.

c ya,
Warmonger
Doubt it.

c ya,
Warmonger

Maybe you did, maybe you didn't. We'll never know. That post wasn't just directed at you. There are some, sure, who tried and hated it. I get that, but there are some who hate it with no basis, and hate it simply because everyone else does, based on what other people say. That is wrong.

I was so excited to be trying it out Then after a few hours I started to hate it. I ploughed through a whole month with it before I went back to Windows 7/Xubuntu. I tried the Release Preview as well which was even worse since they got rid of the Start Menu. Everything I read about it just makes to sound crapper and crapper.

Finally someone has a fair open mind about this thing!

There are two sides to Win 8 IMO , it has a lot of improvements over Win7 that's for sure , what is wrong is the tablet style UI.
Personally I'm kinda bummed about it because I'd love to have Win 8 on desktop but i hate Metro (as i saw it in consumer preview)
If they manage to find a middle ground between desktop and tablet Win 8 has a serious chance to be hugely successful , especially combined with Win phones/tablets.
I can see where MS is coming from with Win 8 but they have to give desktop version some more love.
Edited by RobotDevil666 - 8/2/12 at 11:33am

As odd as it may sound I can't wait to get my hands on a Win8 tablet! IF the rumours are true about the Kinect integration, too, then I'll dig that thing out and put a copy on the HTPC.

I can't wait to get a tablet either... just for the sake of having it!

Exactly!


I have used Windows Developer Preview (see my review in my sig) and Windows 8 Consumer Preview and at first I couldn't find out how to shut down the computer. They have managed to make what was the easiest method yet with Windows 7 (easier than Windows Vista, which had a potentially confusing logo instead of Windows 7's "Shut Down", and at least in laptops, the button assigned to another function (standby, possibly, I don't remember)), into a convoluted and inefficient mess. You will be wasting clicks no matter how you chose to shut down your computer from within Windows.

As to the Windows Key.. you know how many times I use the Windows Key in Windows 7 ? Zero! When I started using computers there was no Windows Key, and miraculously, Microsoft has managed to make it irrelevant ever since Windows 95 until now.

I bet that millions of people have no use whatsoever for the Windows Key. It's there, great, you can use it if you want to, but you don't have to. With Windows 8 it's one more key you'll have to use. Not to mention the absurd list of key combinations that you have to learn in order to navigate around Windows in order to get to places that were once easy to access in Windows 7.

The fact that some people actually seem serious about proposing people should learn all those key combinations, is worrying.

And for those who might be wondering how many actually there are, here it is:



I took it from here.

The problem with your "probably" (which denotes you don't know what you are talking about) is that you can't turn it off.


Actually, Microsoft thinks it can compare a desktop OS with a mobile OS. At least that is what it thinks. The fact is that Metro is badly glued together with the traditional Windows experience and that is what most of the critics who have actually used the OS point out.



People really need to stop spreading this, especially since it mostly arises from repeating the same mistakes over and over from what somebody else said.

Windows 95 was NOT a failure. Of course it had bugs, but it was a major departure for Microsoft and integrated DOS and Windows in a single product. And contrary to Windows 8, they actually did it in a manner that everybody was happy. Can't run an old DOS game with Windows running ? Restart in MS-DOS mode and you have the best DOS that had ever been made until then. Comparable to what Microsoft did by including Windows XP mode with Windows 7 Professional and up.

Windows 2000 has got nothing to do with Windows ME. Windows ME is an experiment that went wrong in the first months. It was still based on the Windows 9x kernel, but Microsoft tried to pretend it wasn't, by artificially disabling MS-DOS mode, and by incorporating some features that were part of Windows 2000 and XP, but that had bugs.

Windows 2000 is based on the NT kernel, and for the most part is just a more workstation oriented version of XP that was released earlier and thus does not have the colourful desktop UI that Windows XP has, other than that during their lifetime, programs written to work on XP worked on 2000.

If you actually want to mention Windows 98 as successful , you might want to distinguish between Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition, which was released in 1999 and is considered to be the best Windows 9x, while Windows 98 also had a few bugs in the beginning, and that famous presentation (prior to release, but still) where, on stage, Bill Gates had to famously improvise when Windows 98 BSOD'ed when they were demonstrating Windows 98's Plug and Play capability by connecting a new scanner.

Edited by tpi2007 - 8/2/12 at 11:44am

I'll crawl back in my hole on that one if you can show me evidence of your claim.