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Thats what im doing....Though recently catastrophic failures have come up more

I'll just go take my break and walk around a bit. tongue.gif It's probably confindetial, but what failures?
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Arranged and planned breeding, here we come. Perpetual birth control for the rest of us (assuming these avatars are that complex).

I read a book about something like this in high school... can't remember the name of it though. Was kinda trippy...
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I can imagine this going seriously wrong. Lets say the brain is like a large HDD, the body is the chassi, and your internal organs are your internal hardware parts. It has an Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU).
You load Windows 7 onto your HDD and install the drivers. Then you take that HDD and put it into a another PC that has an AMD CPU, AMD CPU, and different onboard LAN, etc. If you try to boot it up (in modes other than safe mode) then the drivers will not match and you will have issues.
I can imagine this happening with the brain as well. Like a male body builder's brain is put into the body of someone who is 5'9" 130lbs.
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I don't think it's literally moving the brain into another body. It seems more like making a copy of a personality and moving it into another brain.
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Even as things are now, a great many people don't value life, especially ones that aren't theirs.

That is precisely the point.
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So it begins, I can meet EDI (Mass Effect).

     
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That's a very ambitious timeline. There is no way in hell they are going to hit it either.
The technology just won't be there. Unless we have some stellar neuroscientists develop a direct brain-machine interface (putting sensors on your skull is NOT going to ever solve the issue because of interference and problems with skin, bone, and hair, interfering with the wave propagation. And not to mention, the entire configuration of your mind is so sensitive to changes that such an undertaking is just not going to be possible unless we fundamentally change the approach all these people have been taking. Essentially the majority of research over the past few years has been to develop high resolution brain wave scanners, and to use active imaging like fMRI, but the scanners don't work with a high degree of accuracy and they have a HUGE learning curve. fMRI on the other hand can't be used for long periods because it's dosing the individual with radiation. There is no threshold dose after which you are guaranteed to get cancer, or some dose under which you won't. Radiation is all about probability calculations.
This project will get pushed aside after it files for bankruptcy in the future. This is just like that private mission to Mars that was talked about recently. Great science fiction ideas, just completely NOT feasible right now for those two individual groups.

This. No way. No how. Not by 2045, if ever.
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Pretty sure he is just a troll. I would know... and lay off the pot a bit man...
Evolution is an oudated system of advancement and now is a tool for the new expansion and development of life, which is intellect. I am basing this on a purely atheistic thought process assuming that human being or a human equivalent are the first intelligent entities around. I mean for all we know intelligence or consciousness existed before "life" as we know it. If you look at the human animal the only advantages we possess over other animals are intelligence and efficient long distance running. Humans are generally weak, slow, and dont have any tools at birth. Human babies are completely helpless for a long time as well. Go search for persistance hunt or mexican running tribe. Africans chase down antelopes until the antelope dies of exhaustion. A tribe of Mexicans can run 400 miles in two days or something ridiculous. Even though those are useful tools our intellect is what really allows us to thrive and dominate all other life and each other. Once humans had dominated their environment and animals they moved onto dominating each other, iron sharpens iron. That is why war and racism although outdated did force competition to make us better since we needed something harder to compete with than a deer and drove innovation and development like an artificial evolution that didnt require intelligence directly.
So now we have 7 bllion people, instant access to all information from our computers, we have a ton more knowledge. And we can actually dedicate and train our brain in intellectual pursuits or leisure activities as compared to being a farmer. Intellect allows us to make changes much faster than evolution and instead of react we can take preemptive actions and forsee future problems and correct them. We can even manipulate evolution for our benefit just like we manipulate everything else to suit our needs. We can make much better choices with much better information.
And overpopulation is a lie. The problem is undertechology. In the agricultural revolution they learned to grow 1000x more corn/wheat in the same area. We moved from animals pulling carts to steam engines to gasoline. We have nuclear power but we don't use it because of fear. Go look up thorium reactor and see all problems are solved. Thorium is the REAL green solution. And we aren't out of resources, we have literally barely scratched the surface of the earth. You know how volcanoes are touted as being great for vegetation? Its because the earth is full of useful resources, if we can learn to create controlled artificial volcanoes we can effectively mine the mantle of the earth for ore and minerals etc. I think Cameron has it wrong trying to harvest asteroids when we have rich materials underneath our feet, but i don't know the logistics or cost of either. But the point is there are other ways to do things better, just like when we replaced horses with cars or X with Z.
The people who spout overpopulation and global warming are often making a power/money grab in order to get govt subsidies or other $$$ to start corporations that fail and they steal money from. China and Russia are researching the Thorium Reactor, why isn't the US doing it? Its basically infinite energy and we wouldnt have to worry about dealing with oil or the Middle East (not political, just from a pure monetary standpoint). It would jumpstart teh economy as well since energy costs are a major factor in all businesses. I mean imagine if your food costs were suddenly cut to 1% of what they were. All that extra money you can buy a ton of other stuff. The US could be a major exporter in energy. And our real food is heavily influenced by gasoline costs thats why gas price and food prices go up so much at the same time because its a major expense to move feed, animals, and plants around, not to mention going to the store yourself!
Don't believe what people tell you, go see the opposite opinion and also ask yourself what do these people benefit from this directly and indirectly. Otherwise you'll be hoodwinked faster than you can say hogwash.

You had some good points in there, but you kind of strayed off what I was actually saying.

Anyway, another very well known fact is that we are all ruining our Top Soil. the next few hundred years will be incredibly difficult. I don't think it will be nearly as wonderful as your dreaming here but thats what dreams are for, hope.

Agriculture is already experiencing incredible Shocks, Groves in California shutting down, Price of Almonds have rose because the trees require too much water, not enough water to go around in certain areas. Thats something people forget about.

Limitless energy sounds great. But you honestly thing america will just give it away? Certainly end up more expensive than my current Elecrical bill.

OverPopulation is always a problem, but with more people being forced into slums and the streets as well, the liklihood of serious spreading disease rises, so who knows, maybe a good Plague will Thin things out.
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Joker approves this.thumb.gif

Edited by tech99 - 8/3/12 at 11:29am
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What we really need to do is create robots or basic AI to do menial jobs. This way humans con focus on intellectual pursuits their whole lives rather than have to work crappy jobs. I mean if you look at the potential for humanities processing power and how much is wasted on crap jobs, like janitor for instance. If everyone could go to school and study and come out being at least somewhat able to help in more advanced jobs that would be great. I know a lot of people are stupid and/or lazy so not everyone can be a top scientist. But having a Lab Assistant instead of a Janitor is a big step up. And there just needs to be better eduacational setups for everyone so that all that lost potential of human processing power isnt wasted. My friend has to work retail so he can live and the only way out is to also go to school at the same time, or join the military. This is a huge waste of resources to have people who are otherwise intelligent work jobs like retail. Sure there are a lot of idiots in retail too but maybe if those idiots were given a better education they wouldn't be idiots, at least some portion of them.
Accumulation of wealth should not be the main reason for people to live their lives, whether thats a billionaire businessman or someone to poor to afford food. Its basically Pavlov's hieracrchy of needs and we have the vast majority of poeple focusing on lower tiers and never self actualizing.
There is some movie.. think its called Gattaca that has normal humans vs elite gene controlled humans. Thats what this would be.

How can you talk about people like they're just a resource dedicated to advancing our race as a whole? You do realize that people like to simply live their lives, right? Some people would rather have a simple job and enjoy the simple things in life rather than "contribute" to anything greater than themselves. You have no right to judge them for doing so.


I don't like where the direciton of this "progress" is going. People seem to focus on a few areas:

-Energy and efficiency
-Physical Space constraints
-Purpose of human life

Now with this latest idea, it seems like we are going to create a matrix for ourselves... Mechanical technology hasn't made much progress since the "Back to the Future" era. The main advances have come from computer technology. At the rate things are going, I can see people wanting to live in a virtual reality forever. Why try to make it to mars when we have all the room we could ever ask for in cyberspace? Think about it. A completely virtual world would provide us with:

Immortality (from this project)
Unlimited space to inhabit
Complete and instantaneous communication between people/minds
Little to no energy demands from fossil fuels (we've all seen the matrix)


And to be honest I don't like it one bit. Sorry if this post didnt make sense lol, I'm better at thinking than I am putting words on paper
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Mortality is not a problem. We need to, and should, die.
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