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Fine if it works, specs aren't everything it seems. The answer to your question probably is that you unfortunately just got a bad clocker and no BIOS is really gonna change this, except for the 20-50MHz achieved by the voltmod. You could just try different BIOSs, but I'd stick with what's working.
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Is there any way to actually bump the base 2D clock and not just the boost core clock?

As in, when I play some games my gfx cards it will sit as 1084Mhz and ~1.1v instead of boosting up - and they will not budge at all from that core speed. Boost just flat out does not come into play at all and as such my FPS in those games is low.

I've used every modded and unmodded firmware I could find for my gfx cards, and regardless of which one I use, they all result in the same 1084Mhz and the lacklustre FPS.

If that specific core speed could be lifted, then in the games where the gfx cards do not boost at all, they will provide good fps.

I am not sure how these gfx card core speeds work, but I expect there will be multiple powerstate/levels that determine what core speed and what voltage to run - what I'd like to know is if the powerstate/powerlevel that relates to the base 2D core speed can be altered so it runs at a higher speed then stock?

I'm not sure I explained that properly or clearly, so please ask me to clarify if you've misunderstood and I'll try again.
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Nvidia Inspector can set the values separately for each P-State, it can also force a P-State if it doesn't happen automatically.
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Hi,

I'm looking for a GTX 670 bios for a reference card (PNY) with fan speed starting @10% (it's cooled by an Artic Accelero Mono PLUS)

I've already try Asus DC2 bios without success (stability issue in 3D).

The "REF670_VMOD_BP-200-225_FAN-20-100" works very well but the ideal for me would be "REF670_VMOD_BP-200-225_FAN-10-100"

Can someone help me ?
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Is there any way to actually bump the base 2D clock and not just the boost core clock?
As in, when I play some games my gfx cards it will sit as 1084Mhz and ~1.1v instead of boosting up - and they will not budge at all from that core speed. Boost just flat out does not come into play at all and as such my FPS in those games is low.
I've used every modded and unmodded firmware I could find for my gfx cards, and regardless of which one I use, they all result in the same 1084Mhz and the lacklustre FPS.
If that specific core speed could be lifted, then in the games where the gfx cards do not boost at all, they will provide good fps.
I am not sure how these gfx card core speeds work, but I expect there will be multiple powerstate/levels that determine what core speed and what voltage to run - what I'd like to know is if the powerstate/powerlevel that relates to the base 2D core speed can be altered so it runs at a higher speed then stock?
I'm not sure I explained that properly or clearly, so please ask me to clarify if you've misunderstood and I'll try again.

How low is low? 1084MHz is definitely not 2d state, it's probably the 2nd-to-highest 3d power state would be my guess. I can't imagine it's costing you that many FPS vs what you'd get at full boost. BTW, what is the boost going up to when you run something like Heaven that fully engages the max boost? And which game(s) has this issue? Are you running v-sync at all? Have you tried 'prefer max performance' option in NVCP for these games? Have you maxed out your Power Limit %?

Also, are you OC'ing? What with? I would recommend trying PrecisionX if you're not already. Try forcing the voltage up to the max (1.175V) using evga voltage tool, see if that makes a difference. Also if you are OC'ing try backing it down a bit, maybe it's not 100% stable at the clocks you've set it to.
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can any one mod real Classified BIOS?
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Fine if it works, specs aren't everything it seems. The answer to your question probably is that you unfortunately just got a bad clocker and no BIOS is really gonna change this, except for the 20-50MHz achieved by the voltmod. You could just try different BIOSs, but I'd stick with what's working.
Thanks, its a leased card so i will prolly just send it back till i get a good card smile.gif thats what i did to get my golden 670 FTW smile.gif . The more test results i see about these sli 660's blowing away the 680's is making me wonder if i should just get 2 of those instead. But i'll take your advice and just stick with what i got till i decide what i'm going to do. This card really does suck. 1215 core is about all she will do and she idles at 40c with the fan at 70% and my case has awesome airflow so i know its not my case.
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I flashed my EVGA 680 SC and Zotac Ref with both of the 680 SuperClocked bios' on the front page, now they wont run anything. I get a crash on every benchmark almost right off the bat, even when the cards weren't clocked as high as they were on normal drivers. Any suggestions?
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Thanks for the replies fellas smile.gif
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How low is low? 1084MHz is definitely not 2d state, it's probably the 2nd-to-highest 3d power state would be my guess.
1084Mhz is the base speed my gfx cards sit at while on the desktop using the lastest OEm bios from Palit. Seemed a little high to me also, but that is what it sits at - which is why I called it the base 2D core speed.

here is a screenshot with GPU-Z for each gfx card (card one left, card two right):


I did some tests using the latest Palit firmware for my gfx cards to find out as many P states as I could and here is what I have found so far:
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1084.4 @ 1.087v = stock
1084.4 @ 1.112v = stock (2nd card)
1097.4 @ ???
1137.1 @ 1.100v
1150.2 @ 1.137v
1162.7 @ 1.150v = 80C throttle
1175.8 @ 1.162v = 70C throttle
1188.9 @ 1.175v
1197.4 @ 1.175v

I missed the voltage for the 1097.4Mhz speed as it changed too fast and I could never hit that P state again.

The reason I have listed them for you is to show that my gfx cards can boost upto at least 1197.4Mhz @ 1.175v using the stock Palit firmware - yet in some games it sits flat on 1084Mhz and doesn't budge from there at any time.
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I can't imagine it's costing you that many FPS vs what you'd get at full boost.
The ingame FPS difference when the gfx cards are running at 1084Mhz vs 1197Mhz is actually quite substantial - in the area of 50+ FPS in some games. Use EVGA precision X to do your own tests and you will see 113Mhz extra core speed offers a fairly noticeable FPS difference in games
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BTW, what is the boost going up to when you run something like Heaven that fully engages the max boost?
1197.4Mhz is the max core speed I can record, but generally it sits at 1188.9Mhz due to vcore temp (I assume).
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And which game(s) has this issue?
All Call of Duty games so far (CODMW, CODWAW, CODMW2, CODBO and CODMW3).
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Are you running v-sync at all?
No.
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Have you tried 'prefer max performance' option in NVCP for these games?
Yes. Tried both options.
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Have you maxed out your Power Limit %?
At 1084Mhz it sits around 40%, so I am far from max. I also increased the limit to 120% and 150% and it made no difference.
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Also, are you OC'ing? What with? I would recommend trying PrecisionX if you're not already.
I have tried with and without OC and it still sits at 1084Mhz in those games. I have tried both MSI AB and EVGA PX.
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Try forcing the voltage up to the max (1.175V) using evga voltage tool, see if that makes a difference.
Tried that and it made no difference.
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Also if you are OC'ing try backing it down a bit, maybe it's not 100% stable at the clocks you've set it to.
As above, I have tried with and without OC and there is no difference. It sits flat on 1084Mhz and doesn't move.


It honestly is baffling. I just don't know what else to do apart from increasing that specific P State (the one that relates to 1084Mhz) so it runs at the higher core speed for me.
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Nvidia Inspector can set the values separately for each P-State, it can also force a P-State if it doesn't happen automatically.
So you can force any of the P states available? I will try this out now.
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The ingame FPS difference when the gfx cards are running at 1084Mhz vs 1197Mhz is actually quite substantial - in the area of 50+ FPS in some games. Use EVGA precision X to do your own tests and you will see 113Mhz extra core speed offers a fairly noticeable FPS difference in games

The game is running at >500FPS normally? A 10% clock increase should never make such a difference. Some underlying SLI problem maybe?
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