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Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post

Yes, it is stable at that speed. Well, last time I checked it was still an improved FPS indicated by Heaven at that high memory clock so no I'm not yet hitting GDDR5 memory correction. Although, I have to double check on that.

Setting at 250W will not damage the card at all. It's basically setting the max limit and the draw is ultimately dependent on the card load anyway. Increasing the GPU clocks more will produce a crash in Heaven and increasing the mem clocks usually produce artifacts OR a Heaven crash as well. Does that mean voltage problem? Or can using KBT 1.27 to adjust the power throttles alleviate these?
250/300 was my default anyway, 300W allowed with 6+8-pin...
If you can reach higher speed for gpu while leaving memory at 3000 or even under, then might be power, but i guess if it is stable at that speed then you are probably near max and power problems might start only after voltmod with higher clocks, if even then...

I got to 3750memory with 760 and 770 bios, but do not know if the timings or different os something, because i get better result with 670 bios at 3400 vs 770 bios at 3750, while at same gpu speed, but with 670 bios i see first errors at 3500, nothing at 3750 with 760/770 bios, only crash at 3800
Edited by maxufeiss - 3/5/14 at 12:42pm
post #7312 of 7931
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250/300 was my default anyway, 300W allowed with 6+8-pin...
If you can reach higher speed for gpu while leaving memory at 3000 or even under, then might be power, but i guess if it is stable at that speed then you are probably near max and power problems might start only after voltmod with higher clocks, if even then...

So you suggest I change the power limit to 300W using KBT 1.25?

What do you mean by "If you can reach higher speed for gpu while leaving memory at 3000 or even under, then might be power" ? I'm not sure if I understand that. I mean, if I see that the actual GPU power usage is only up to 80% on my current setting of 250W, doesn't that mean I'm still far from the max? Or should I adjust the power limits of the other ones like PCI-e, rails, etc.?
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i assume 140% is relative to the def field
not using the gigabyte version of the card, i have the galaxy version
http://www.overclockers.com/galaxy-gtx-650ti-boost-review/
this part is worth mentioning
"Galaxy has made the choice to beef up the GTX 650 Ti Boost PCB and give it a bit more in the power delivery area. This can be seen with a 4+1 power phase configuration as opposed to the 3+1 on reference boards."
are these last 2 values even possible to use? i thought 150k was the limit for those, though i have seen 160k on that value on my RMAed card's stock bios (RMAed over a bad fan)
screenshot-03052014-033722pm.php

no you are changing the max values not the def fields also that gigabyte comment was relating to us gigabyte users in this thread who have been struggling with this card your comment is above that one

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no you are changing the max values not the def fields also that gigabyte comment was relating to us gigabyte users in this thread who have been struggling with this card your comment is above that one
i said relative
IE:
min 50000
def 100000
max 105000
new max would be 140000 not 147000 because the 140% is based on the def value not the original max value
post #7315 of 7931
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So you suggest I change the power limit to 300W using KBT 1.25?

What do you mean by "If you can reach higher speed for gpu while leaving memory at 3000 or even under, then might be power" ? I'm not sure if I understand that. I mean, if I see that the actual GPU power usage is only up to 80% on my current setting of 250W, doesn't that mean I'm still far from the max? Or should I adjust the power limits of the other ones like PCI-e, rails, etc.?
I dont see any point rising the power limit to 300, you just aint pulling that much anyway... might change it, but it just shows you less % afterwards or something...

By gpu/memory i mean that like i said, if you tested gpu speed first without touching memory speed and ran into crashes, did you try to lower memory speed to like 2500 then and repeat tests? Assuming you started with gpu and after it was running as fast it could, you set it back to default, tested max for mem, then applied them both and did not run into troubles like having to find a balance and could run them both at max, then i'd say you are good...

Yes you are far from max power, no problemos, thank Gigabyte for giving this nice board with enough power to play with... Only thing they missed is a switch to enable VID_6 connection (over 1,212 voltages) wink.gif
I'm looking atm my board with that in mind... might test if the trace actually leads to gpu or not... would prefer to unlock voltages to heat up my room sometimes, but do not want to mess too much with my board... ain't cheap for me biggrin.gif
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i said relative
IE:
min 50000
def 100000
max 105000
new max would be 140000 not 147000 because the 140% is based on the def value not the original max value

indeed but you are just raising the percentages as yes each value is relative to each value yes. but you are giving the card more room to play with if you want you can raise def as well. you see how that image has it that is perfect. you have it exactly right in that screenshot

sorry for confusing you 

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I dont see any point rising the power limit to 300, you just aint pulling that much anyway... might change it, but it just shows you less % afterwards or something...

By gpu/memory i mean that like i said, if you tested gpu speed first without touching memory speed and ran into crashes, did you try to lower memory speed to like 2500 then and repeat tests? Assuming you started with gpu and after it was running as fast it could, you set it back to default, tested max for mem, then applied them both and did not run into troubles like having to find a balance and could run them both at max, then i'd say you are good...

Yes you are far from max power, no problemos, thank Gigabyte for giving this nice board with enough power to play with... Only thing they missed is a switch to enable VID_6 connection (over 1,212 voltages) wink.gif
I'm looking atm my board with that in mind... might test if the trace actually leads to gpu or not... would prefer to unlock voltages to heat up my room sometimes, but do not want to mess too much with my board... ain't cheap for me biggrin.gif

Got it.

Yeah, the values that I've shown in my BIOS are somewhat of a balance between core and mem clocks.

But how do you usually modify the power limits using KBT 1.27? Or is modifying the left side values using KBT 1.25 more than enough?
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Got it.

Yeah, the values that I've shown in my BIOS are somewhat of a balance between core and mem clocks.

But how do you usually modify the power limits using KBT 1.27? Or is modifying the left side values using KBT 1.25 more than enough?
I have set frist and third options to 25/260/260, but since they originally were 25/240/2400 then this change might not do anything actually for me, for me the important thing was 5-th choice for pci-e power with default 30/66/100 but now i have it 30/78/85.... 6 and 7 are for 6-pin and 8-pin, but without voltmod there is no point to touch them, plenty enough there... and lastly i have set both 8 and 9 choice to 100/260/280, almost default there too... add 000 everywhere ofc*
These are my settings, and they are almost default, besides for pci-e power what i needed and should affect mostly 4G board oc results...Or i just got some shady board where in factory girls giggled and switched some resistors etc around to offset load balancing and are still to this day laughing that somewhere in this world one poor fella is trying to figure out why his card is acting power limited...
Lowering some default max from 300 to 280 has no real meaning probably in gaming etc, pay no attention to that.

Somewhat balance? So your gpu was stable at higher speeds? Or if you applied memory oc the gpu started to throttle slightly and therefore had to find balance? Or just backed down just to be more on safe side?
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indeed but you are just raising the percentages as yes each value is relative to each value yes. but you are giving the card more room to play with if you want you can raise def as well. you see how that image has it that is perfect. you have it exactly right in that screenshot

sorry for confusing you 
i changed the max values like you said to, leaving the def values as they were, i was not able to get another 13MHz
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I have set frist and third options to 25/260/260, but since they originally were 25/240/2400 then this change might not do anything actually for me, for me the important thing was 5-th choice for pci-e power with default 30/66/100 but now i have it 30/78/85.... 6 and 7 are for 6-pin and 8-pin, but without voltmod there is no point to touch them, plenty enough there... and lastly i have set both 8 and 9 choice to 100/260/280, almost default there too... add 000 everywhere ofc*
These are my settings, and they are almost default, besides for pci-e power what i needed and should affect mostly 4G board oc results...Or i just got some shady board where in factory girls giggled and switched some resistors etc around to offset load balancing and are still to this day laughing that somewhere in this world one poor fella is trying to figure out why his card is acting power limited...
Lowering some default max from 300 to 280 has no real meaning probably in gaming etc, pay no attention to that.

Somewhat balance? So your gpu was stable at higher speeds? Or if you applied memory oc the gpu started to throttle slightly and therefore had to find balance? Or just backed down just to be more on safe side?

I'm assuming this is using KBT 1.27, right? How did you come up with those values?

Well, if I keep the BIOS with the max core clock and max mem clock Heaven 4.0 tends to crash. I never experienced any power throttle while monitoring PrecisionX performance monitor. It's always a crash/artifact that's being my basis of unstability.

How do you personally monitor throttling because of power limitation?
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