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It's just that the more recent Power Edition and Lightening cards come with a different bios than the older ones. The new bios locks the voltage at Nvidias request to prevent overvolting... You can still flash the old bios though.
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What bios version do you have?
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Does someone else with one of these have a DMM to verify?

I can't believe that MSI would do that. I mean, maybe releasing cards from now on with the BIOS limiting the card to 1.175v to appease Nvidia, but it's hard to believe that they'd release a Power Edition claiming Over-Voltage and then let you raise it to only the reference card's levels on purpose.

That's pretty low if true.
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post #24 of 79
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Nah, I know how to use a volt meter on a card. And don't forget, the people on MSI said that the 1.175 was the overvoltage.
I bought this used so I'm not sure the exact purchase date.
Edit: I changed the thread title to a question mark so it was presented better.

Can you post a pic of how you're testing with a dmm? Specifically, show where you're hooking the leads up and the DMM readout? Something sounds wrong because the card definitely goes over 1.175V, I have seen it with my own eyes with a mastech DMM on a friends card. I have seen his do 1.22V on a mastech DMM - I'm not sure why you would even use GPU-z, gpu-z does not report proper voltage. GPu-z reports 1.2v when my lightnings are nearly 1.4V.....you're doing something wrong.

Guru3d also speculated that a new BIOS would be forced to prevent over voltage but that has never happened. All lightning BIOS allow overvoltage - and I suspect the same for the PE.
Edited by xoleras - 8/2/12 at 8:22pm
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Guru3d also speculated that a new BIOS would be forced to prevent over voltage but that has never happened. All lightning BIOS allow overvoltage - and I suspect the same for the PE.
I am pretty sure I have been reading that a lot of the newer 680's (lightnings) have a new bios. Is this not true?
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Can you post a pic of how you're testing with a dmm? Specifically, show where you're hooking the leads up and the DMM readout? Something sounds wrong because the card definitely goes over 1.175V, I have seen it with my own eyes with a mastech DMM on a friends card. I have seen his do 1.22V on a mastech DMM - I'm not sure why you would even use GPU-z, gpu-z does not report proper voltage. GPu-z reports 1.2v when my lightnings are nearly 1.4V.....you're doing something wrong.
Guru3d also speculated that a new BIOS would be forced to prevent over voltage but that has never happened. All lightning BIOS allow overvoltage - and I suspect the same for the PE.

I don't really have something to take a picture, but I just flashed it to the new evga bios from another thread and I am getting higher OCs. Still experimenting, but I think that would prove that something is wrong. I know GPUZ isn't always right, was mostly using it for the TDP reference.
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post #27 of 79
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I am pretty sure I have been reading that a lot of the newer 680's (lightnings) have a new bios. Is this not true?

There is a new BIOS but it allows unlocked voltage, it only changes fan startup profiles and a few other minor things. Guru3d speculated on a BIOS preventing over voltage but it was false, that has not happened.
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Wait, are you using GPU-z or a DMM to test voltage? Why would you flash to an EVGA BIOS? You make no sense at all.

Did you test with a DMM or no? You don't have a phone to take a snapshot? Because if you did with the original PE BIOS, you would get over voltage with the applicable setting in afterburner 2.2.3. You are all over the place and i'm not really following.
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There is a new BIOS but it allows unlocked voltage, it only changes fan startup profiles and a few other minor things. Guru3d speculated on a BIOS preventing over voltage but it was false, that has not happened.

After flashing to the EVGA bios I can tell you that my meter shows 1.250 and GPUZ shows 1.212. Again I know GPUZ isn't right but this new bios does get me thinking.
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Wait, are you using GPU-z or a DMM to test voltage? Why would you flash to an EVGA BIOS? You make no sense at all.
Did you test with a DMM or no? You don't have a phone to take a snapshot? Because if you did with the original PE BIOS, you would get over voltage with the applicable setting in afterburner 2.2.3. You are all over the place and i'm not really following.

I tested with a DMM yes. I just have a ghetto LG Rumor because I'm not a cell phone person. I would like to see this original bios if someone has it.
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So you flashed your BIOS without making a backup, how do you not have the original? Not a cell phone person? How do you live lol (just giving you crap sorry). If you're saying that the original PE bios doesn't go over 1175 you should post something to substantiate it (like a pic of testing it on a dmm), I have seen it with my own eyes going past that but I can't get any DMM pics until probably this weekend. (friends card) Maybe there's another factor on your card or something.

I think something is going wrong on your end somewhere, shrug.
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