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My CaseLabs TH10 will be arriving on Monday and my Koolance mobo block came in earlier this week. I will more than likely start ordering the rest of my water cooling parts tonight or tomorrow night. I'm really thinking about switching to the Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta Quad 120 radiators instead of the RX480. I'm also wavering on the Apogee HD and thinking about the Raystorm again. I'm trying to weight the pros/cons of a great mount/higher restriction vs. not as good of a mount/lower restriction; part of me says the potential mount issues of the Raystorm would be negated if I used Indigo Xtreme for TIM. To keep with the looks of my build I should go with the Heatkiller Rev 3 but that's an older block and I don't want to risk performance. I wonder if I can speed up Stren's review if I throw some $$$ at him? I'm kidding, though I'm definitely looking forward to his results.

Still torn on what to do for pumps. I was hoping to have 2 D5's with a dual top and either have the res attached directly to the top or mounted to the case 3-4 inches above the pump top. The idea was to have the pumps be visible and a "show piece" so to speak. I was planning on going with the Bitspower top and the res that attaches to the top but then I'm limited when it comes to input options. If I go with the EK top then I can directly attach the MultiOption RES X2 Advanced which gives me all the options I want but then I can't use the pump mod kits to improve their looks. I could attach the EK res directly to the Bitspower top with an adapter but I'm not sure how sturdy and secure that will be. I'd really prefer not drill into the case so mounting the res directly to the case is a last resort. I could go with the MCP35X2 with the heatsink/fan but that doesn't have the visual impact of the two D5's with the mod kits and I'd still have the issue of where/how to mount the res. Ugh... indecision will be the death of me.

Silly question time... do I have to worry about plasticizer if I go with colored tubing?

*** UPDATE ***

My TH10 arrived at work today. I haven't opened the box up yet but I may have to as I'm not sure if it will fit in my car. Good grief this thing is huge. I'm hoping once I get a chance to open this thing up and take some measurements I'll be able to figure out my pump and res placement and hopefully that will steer me one direction or another for which pump/top/res to get. Other than that I think I'm pretty much set to place my order for the rest of my WC parts.
Edited by ColdFusionWi - 8/20/12 at 10:58am
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post #12 of 16
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I hate to double post but it's been a week since my last update and I'm looking to order today.

I'm thinking I'm going to go with two Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta Quad 120 radiators unless someone can give me a reason not to. I'm leaning towards AP-15's in push venting out the top of my case on both the mobo and psu sides and all other places where a fan can be mounted will be intakes. Because of the thickness of the those radiators should I run push/pull or should push AP15's be enough? I want quiet, though I don't need complete silence. There really haven't been too many reviews of those radiators. I've been tossing around the idea of waiting for the new Noise Blocker eLoop fans to be available for purchase and giving them a try but if they aren't going to be available in the next 2-3 weeks I'll more than likely pass.

Still torn on pumps but as of right now I'm leaning more towards the MCP35X2 with a heatsink which will more than likely be mounted just above my array of intake fans at the bottom of the case so the fan probably isn't needed. I know they do a better job with restriction in a loop at the expense of heat build up. My concern is that this computer will more than likely never be idle and will be folding when I'm not gaming or using it for other things. The longevity of D5's is well known. These are the main reasons I'm torn between pumps.

Is there a consensus on which tubing is safest to use? I'm looking at using colored tubing and distilled or clear w/Mayhem's.

In today's order I'd like to get my pumps, radiators, reservoir, and gpu blocks. I'm trying to hold out for Sten's tests to be completed before I select a cpu block but for now I'm back to leaning towards the Apogee HD in white as I'm more concerned with the potential mount issues (both mounting mechanism and bowed block) of the Raystorm than I am with the "moderate" restriction in the Apogee HD.

Sorry for rambling but I have a million things going through my head and I guess I'm just looking for some confirmation that I'm headed in the right direction.
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post #13 of 16
Personally, I think that the Apogee HD is a great block for the larger chips like Sandy Bridge E, and more restriction is not necessarily a bad thing as it can, to a degree, promote turbulence thus reducing the boundary layer.

For rad fans, if you are willing to use a fan controller, I highly recommend the Koolance 120x38mm 2800rpm Fans if you want just push, or the 120x25mm 2800rpm Fans for push and pull (well, you could definitely do push/pull with either). They have 2-3.5x the static pressure of the Gentle Typhoon AP15s while costing half as much. With such thick rads, regardless of fin density, having high static pressure is imperative and the Koolance fans deliver 5.4mmHg (25mm) and 7.6mmHg (38mm) for just $7-8 a piece.
   
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How loud are those fans when they are in the 1000-1500 rpm range?
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I have only briefly tested them at various speeds (still putting everything together), but I did not hear any odd noises at 50 percent speed (likely around 1500-1800rpm). I would say that the volume is insignificant, equal to or quieter than the stock NZXT Switch fans.
Even at full speed, albeit in an open environment, they weren't what I would call loud. I couldn't hear it over the tower fan I had running (centrifugal blower house fan set at speed 2 out of 3), but I will say that there was zero perceptible motor noise, just a whooshing from the airflow. This was the same regardless of the orientation of the fan.
   
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Interesting, I may look into those a bit more. Thanks for the suggestion. I'm getting a bit anxious and sick of over planning/thinking but I really want to do it right the first time and keep wasting time and money.
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