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the i7 3930K is somewhat I picked. my job was the one who told me to get an i7 that was sandy bridge and four or six core. I figured for overclocking, why not go with the 3930K.
- sure it is 200 more. but I get the option to overclock it.
- so in a way it was me, but mostly because I was told what I needed at minimum.
Same thing is said for the Memory, SSD, and HD. I was told minimum 8GB, 240 SSD, (two) 3TB HD (one would be souly for a backup). I left the SSD and HD alone. but decided to put 16GB in it, so I would not have to worry about the future on it.
and I was told that 10 Mbps was enough on here. I had a feeling it was not. but I went with what people on this board were saying. so you are the first to tell me this. and I do not mind at all spending 10$ more to get 30 Mbps.
^^^^ do you think this is the problem? (Because the only reason I kept looking for Graphic cards. is just cause of being told 10 Mbps was enough.) I was having around 3 Mbps just a month ago, but had charter come out and they upgraded the Router and did some changes to the wiring outside of the house. and it brought it up. sometimes it will show 30, and sometimes it will show 10.
Just remember your ISP is always trying to pull the wool over your eyes. 10Mbs is not what you think it is. It is 10 MegaBITS/sec not megaBYTES. It actually comes out to be just a little over 1.2 megabytes/sec which isn't bad but can be throttled very quickly especially if you are using 1080p option in videos.

edit - also it is a super awesome and sexy case, huge, easy to work in, and has great cable management with that inch gap from the back panel thumb.gif
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what is your thoughts on this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146088&nm_mc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r&cm_mmc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r-_-Cases+%28Computer+Cases+-+ATX+Form%29-_-NZXT-_-11146088
a member here had sent it over to me to look at as well. I have been thinking of going with this one. just I heard someone in this thread say they did not like the Switch 810.

I own one myself. It's an excellent case for the price and has more room than you could ever need. It's got some unique features like an adjustable top air duct and even an extension cable for CPU power. Almost everything is removable, so for example if you don't need the 6 hard drive bays you can pull 3 of them out and have space for spare power cables (if your PSU isn't modular) or a 2 x 120mm radiator. When you deck it out with all the 140mm fans you can fit in it (7 I think, and it comes with 4) air flow is superb. Basically, I recommend it. wink.gif
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I own one myself. It's an excellent case for the price and has more room than you could ever need. It's got some unique features like an adjustable top air duct and even an extension cable for CPU power. Almost everything is removable, so for example if you don't need the 6 hard drive bays you can pull 3 of them out and have space for spare power cables (if your PSU isn't modular) or a 2 x 120mm radiator. When you deck it out with all the 140mm fans you can fit in it (7 I think, and it comes with 4) air flow is superb. Basically, I recommend it. wink.gif
That is great you have one. Because you would know best on the space available.

Thank you
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Just remember your ISP is always trying to pull the wool over your eyes. 10Mbs is not what you think it is. It is 10 MegaBITS/sec not megaBYTES. It actually comes out to be just a little over 1.2 megabytes/sec which isn't bad but can be throttled very quickly especially if you are using 1080p option in videos.
edit - also it is a super awesome and sexy case, huge, easy to work in, and has great cable management with that inch gap from the back panel thumb.gif
i did not know that. I never bothered to look. that is what I get for assuming.

Thanks. I an going to get the case.you and mr357 and a few others have mentioned it.
I am going to just pay the 10$ more a month to get more mega bits. I'll run a test on video and see if that fixes the problem......if out does then I will go with a chapter graphic card......but if it does not, I might stick with the 7970......unless someone thinks I should look into something else.

Thanks
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what is your thoughts on this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146088&nm_mc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r&cm_mmc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r-_-Cases+%28Computer+Cases+-+ATX+Form%29-_-NZXT-_-11146088
a member here had sent it over to me to look at as well. I have been thinking of going with this one. just I heard someone in this thread say they did not like the Switch 810.

My roomate has that case and I helped him put together his system, it was a dream to work with. So much space, so easy for cable management. He put the H100 on top with a push/pull configuration with no problems what-so-ever. thumb.gif
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i did not know that. I never bothered to look. that is what I get for assuming.
Thanks. I an going to get the case.you and mr357 and a few others have mentioned it.
I am going to just pay the 10$ more a month to get more mega bits. I'll run a test on video and see if that fixes the problem......if out does then I will go with a chapter graphic card......but if it does not, I might stick with the 7970......unless someone thinks I should look into something else.
Thanks
Hey man was thinking of you when i read this wubsmiley.gif
you should check it out. it explains alot about hdtv's and monitors. see link
http://www.overclock.net/t/1298124/just-used-a-120hz-monitor-from-a-friend-blown-away-want-one-asap-help-me-choose
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Hey man was thinking of you when i read this wubsmiley.gif
you should check it out. it explains alot about hdtv's and monitors. see link
http://www.overclock.net/t/1298124/just-used-a-120hz-monitor-from-a-friend-blown-away-want-one-asap-help-me-choose

thanks. I see it talking about gaming mostly. and just 120HZ.
and honestly for what she was wanting to do with it 120HZ would be plenty, just cause based on what people said, it would not push that much from the computer to the TV....seemed I saw a few people mention it could do 30-60 Fps.<<<
so is this what you are saying and wanted me to see? or was it something else that was said.

thanks

EDIT: I did the processor. but I mentioned I have to get an i7 for work. and since I wanted to over clock, then I decided to go with the K. (not sure if that was something else you wanted me to see as well.) because I do agree that 3+GHZ i5 would do enough....heck an i3 would be enough for watching movies. But I have to get an i7 for work.
Edited by mashburn82 - 8/23/12 at 11:46pm
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thanks. I see it talking about gaming mostly. and just 120HZ.
and honestly for what she was wanting to do with it 120HZ would be plenty, just cause based on what people said, it would not push that much from the computer to the TV....seemed I saw a few people mention it could do 30-60 Fps.<<<
so is this what you are saying and wanted me to see? or was it something else that was said.
thanks
EDIT: I did the processor. but I mentioned I have to get an i7 for work. and since I wanted to over clock, then I decided to go with the K. (not sure if that was something else you wanted me to see as well.) because I do agree that 3+GHZ i5 would do enough....heck an i3 would be enough for watching movies. But I have to get an i7 for work.
No I wasn't talking about the processor. But I was saying the little bit of micro stutter your getting on your tv might actually be your tv not the gfx card. Since all it does is show the same frame 4 times making the 240 hz tv play at 60 hz technically. If your really serious about having the best then I'd consider getting a nice monitor. I promise you the difference would be amazing
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This has to be one of the most hilarious threads I have ever read.

"I need an i7 for work, it's a job requirement."
So far, the only "work" task I've read here, is that linux needs to be run, and something about networking. Based on (current) internet speed, I can't fathom a scenario where the machine is going to be under some sort of heavy duty server load. I get the feeling like there are enormous misconceptions still abound here regarding the necessary hardware power. FYI, configuring switches and routers can be done from an old 486.
There is nothing about an i7 that separates it from other CPUs by a large enough margin to make it a "requirement" for anything you have described at this point. However, if the work you are doing does in fact involve a highly threaded CPU workload, a high core count server build may actually be more appropriate, especially in linux, where you will typically find good server hardware support and optimisation (although a server based build is less cost effective for the performance, but typically provides better long term hardware reliability/stability). Alternatively, the FX-8120 is about half the performance on average compared to an i7-3930K, however, costs about 1/4th as much. The FX-8120 provides very nearly twice the computation per dollar and is a better value for most linux users. Linux just does not need the per-core performance to feel zippy.


"I need 3TB drives, it's a job requirement."
What were people in the industry doing before 3TB drives? I can't fathom how this could be a job requirement, when these drives didn't even exist like 1.5 years ago.


"I need the uberist GPU to watch youtube on my TV"
There won't even be good (point-n-click) linux support for the GPUs you are looking at for another 1-2 years. The correct GPU for what you are doing is a GTX460 or other 400 series NVIDIA CARD OR OLDER (The GTS450 is actually probably even more appropriate). The 400 series is currently the best balance of linux support and modern capability. People who run linux will commonly tell you that over the years, NVIDIA has provided better linux support than ATI/AMD. I feel like everyone else has already beat their heads into the wall long enough on the fact that no matter how special you think your TV is, it does not "need" special high end hardware to work properly. As evidenced by the fact that a cable or sat box, or blue ray player, can deliver a perfectly good picture to it and none of those devices have "high end computer GPUs." Obviously you don't want to hear that sort of stuff because it distracts you from a dream where problems go away if you throw money at them. I guarantee the issues that you have had with other computers hooked to the TV are not related to the hardware "not being powerful enough." Operator error, incorrect settings, malware, gunkware, all of the above. You're throwing hundreds of dollars at a problem, hoping it will go away. More than likely, the new machine will work flawlessly (in Windows) and you'll believe that it's because you chose the high end card, in fact, the only reason it will be working so flawlessly is because it's a fresh build with fresh OS install, and you'll never have given yourself the opportunity to find out that those hundreds of dollars were wasted on a ghost chasing effort.


"Going with the intel 520 to keep everything the same"
The Samsung 830 256GB costs less, seems to be delivering better reliability and performance, and has slightly more space. I can't fathom sticking with the 520, the 830 is the better drive for the money.


"I'll be buying my linux and windows 7 off of another site."
You're going to PAY for linux?
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This has to be one of the most hilarious threads I have ever read.
"I need an i7 for work, it's a job requirement."
So far, the only "work" task I've read here, is that linux needs to be run, and something about networking. Based on (current) internet speed, I can't fathom a scenario where the machine is going to be under some sort of heavy duty server load. I get the feeling like there are enormous misconceptions still abound here regarding the necessary hardware power. FYI, configuring switches and routers can be done from an old 486.
There is nothing about an i7 that separates it from other CPUs by a large enough margin to make it a "requirement" for anything you have described at this point. However, if the work you are doing does in fact involve a highly threaded CPU workload, a high core count server build may actually be more appropriate, especially in linux, where you will typically find good server hardware support and optimisation (although a server based build is less cost effective for the performance, but typically provides better long term hardware reliability/stability). Alternatively, the FX-8120 is about half the performance on average compared to an i7-3930K, however, costs about 1/4th as much. The FX-8120 provides very nearly twice the computation per dollar and is a better value for most linux users. Linux just does not need the per-core performance to feel zippy.
"I need 3TB drives, it's a job requirement."
What were people in the industry doing before 3TB drives? I can't fathom how this could be a job requirement, when these drives didn't even exist like 1.5 years ago.
"I need the uberist GPU to watch youtube on my TV"
There won't even be good (point-n-click) linux support for the GPUs you are looking at for another 1-2 years. The correct GPU for what you are doing is a GTX460 or other 400 series NVIDIA CARD OR OLDER (The GTS450 is actually probably even more appropriate). The 400 series is currently the best balance of linux support and modern capability. People who run linux will commonly tell you that over the years, NVIDIA has provided better linux support than ATI/AMD. I feel like everyone else has already beat their heads into the wall long enough on the fact that no matter how special you think your TV is, it does not "need" special high end hardware to work properly. As evidenced by the fact that a cable or sat box, or blue ray player, can deliver a perfectly good picture to it and none of those devices have "high end computer GPUs." Obviously you don't want to hear that sort of stuff because it distracts you from a dream where problems go away if you throw money at them. I guarantee the issues that you have had with other computers hooked to the TV are not related to the hardware "not being powerful enough." Operator error, incorrect settings, malware, gunkware, all of the above. You're throwing hundreds of dollars at a problem, hoping it will go away. More than likely, the new machine will work flawlessly (in Windows) and you'll believe that it's because you chose the high end card, in fact, the only reason it will be working so flawlessly is because it's a fresh build with fresh OS install, and you'll never have given yourself the opportunity to find out that those hundreds of dollars were wasted on a ghost chasing effort.
"Going with the intel 520 to keep everything the same"
The Samsung 830 256GB costs less, seems to be delivering better reliability and performance, and has slightly more space. I can't fathom sticking with the 520, the 830 is the better drive for the money.
"I'll be buying my linux and windows 7 off of another site."
You're going to PAY for linux?
I thought the same thing about the i7 especially since it seemed like he didn't even know what his job really was. But as you can see in the other 99 posts that he is very stubborn. Rep for you though sir. For saying what I didn't feel like wasting my time saying hah
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