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I bought Rage at the Steam sale for $10, even for $10 it was a rip off. What a pile of dung. As the guy who co-created the FPS genre, Carmack should be embarrassed. Given that, I'm pretty interested in Doom 4, hopefully it goes back to the roots of FPS, no more of this aim down the sights crap with perks and unlocks. Just give me some friggen high paced death match.
    
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I bought Rage at the Steam sale for $10, even for $10 it was a rip off. What a pile of dung. As the guy who co-created the FPS genre, Carmack should be embarrassed. Given that, I'm pretty interested in Doom 4, hopefully it goes back to the roots of FPS, no more of this aim down the sights crap with perks and unlocks. Just give me some friggen high paced death match.


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Well Mr. Carmack, you can apologize to me to the tune of $59.99. I pre ordered that pile of unplayable garbage based on your claim of a good game. What we got was a game that looked like HL1, while claiming to be cutting edge.
You will never see another dime from me.

This.

I too was fooled into buying Rage. Never again will I give this guy's company any business.
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Anybody who thinks Doom 4 won't be console focused is high.
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I won't be accepting your apology Carmack, as RAGE was awesome! Rage has some of the best shooting and gameplay mechanics, as well as graphics, compared to most titles. Since when was an ID game about story? The multiplayer is also way underrated.
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Is there a video of his speach?
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Ah yeah I'm another who actually really enjoys playing Rage, and thought it looked awesome. But anyway I love you too John smile.gif can't wait for doom 4. At least will have doom 3: BFG edition soon to play around with
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Having reviewed the game here on OCN, I must say Carmack still has to explain what on earth those 25 GB of data are for. Megatexture is a concept I still haven't understood to it's full extent. How can such an advanced technique produce such crappy results yet use so much space ? Crysis has much better all round graphics, yet uses much less space, GTA: EFLC TBoGT, while being DX9 and a third person game, has a huge city that you can even fly over, and it uses less space.

Carmack even admitted they didn't make any higher resolution textures when they released the 1.2 patch (which is a bit odd, since they initially said the original files had to be compressed a lot) with the upsampling with adaptive sharpening improvement (which needs a fast CPU, faster than a Q9550 at 3.4 Ghz (which the game says is not enough, by the way) if you don't want it to dip below 60 fps, and while dipping to 55 fps might seem perfectly acceptable, the game stutters and it's noticeable), so I wonder how much space RAGE would have needed to look as good as other games on the market.

As has been said, the game's story was normal at best, if you are going to be playing RAGE it won't be for the story, it'll be for the fps and the relatively fun driving (though driving and shooting / defending your vehicle it is far from being a very developed experience, though for a first time for id, the driving mechanics are actually good).

All in all it's a decent shooter, with decent locations, even if the story driving you to those locations is nothing out of the ordinary. There isn't really an interesting plot that holds your attention.

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Has anyone bought the Doom pack and played Doom 1 or 2 on windows7 64 bit? they were 16 bit programs, so i dont thik they will run. but i could be wrong

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Has anyone bought the Doom pack and played Doom 1 or 2 on windows7 64 bit? they were 16 bit programs, so i dont thik they will run. but i could be wrong

Use DosBOX, works perfectly.

Actually you don't need to use DosBOX because the package sold on Steam already comes with it, it's all automated. The same for Commander Keen, Wolfenstein 3D, Spear of Destiny, etc.

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Hate all you want, but I loved Rage, and think it was one of the better games to be released within the last 3-5 years. One of the only games I played exclusively until I beat it. But I also managed to beat Duke Nukem Forever, and we all know what everyone thought of that game. I admit though, with Rage, I was aware of the texture issues before playing, and used a custom config file right from the start to cure all those issues. It was also one of the most beautiful games I've played, with the custom config. I found it more visually stunning than Crysis 2, maybe not from a technical standpoint, but from an overall art direction perspective.

I actually liked Duke Nukem Forever (I bought it after the patches) better than RAGE. It's actually better at what it does than RAGE. I must confess I did not play Duke Nukem 3D, so I don't know if this game is out of touch with that one, but I did play the original Duke Nukem 2D side scrolling games, and I found Duke Nukem Forever to be a lot of fun. Whether you like the jokes or not, the game has character. And it's got fps multiplayer, giving you many hours of fun, in a Quake 3 style.
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As far as im concerned id software is still running off reputation gained from a game made more than 10 years ago.

I bought rage for $10 at gamestop a few months ago and at that price im satisfied.

Ill be waiting until Doom4 comes down in price ,before buying though because id is VERY close to going on my developer blacklist.
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I thought rage was pretty good, playing it again now on my 680 lightning with no pop ins or nothing. to each their own i suppose.
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