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Well, a 420mm radiator is typically equivalent to a 480, so splitting it into the 280+140 still gives you 420mm of surface, you just lose a bit by having them separate. I would say that with decent fans, you will be somewhere between a 360 and 480 but a bit closer to the latter. Remember that the EX like high power fans, and the Bgears Blasters 140mm will make your rads shine.
     
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Well, a 420mm radiator is typically equivalent to a 480, so splitting it into the 280+140 still gives you 420mm of surface, you just lose a bit by having them separate. I would say that with decent fans, you will be somewhere between a 360 and 480 but a bit closer to the latter. Remember that the EX like high power fans, and the Bgears Blasters 140mm will make your rads shine.
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That is what I was hoping but was not sure...I was thinking about getting the Aero Cool Shark series 140mm I have the 120mm version on my H60 and it seems to be working well not loud as hell and still pushing allot of air
    
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They are very optimistically specced, at least for the 140mm model. I would say either Bgears Blasters or NZXT FX140LB will be much better options.
     
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With my first two water cooled builds I bottom mounted the radiators (after opening up the bottom of the case.I put the case up on some small wheels (so it could draw air in the bottom) and remotely mounted the power supply.I did this back in 2009 thinking it would be temporary but it has worked out so well (folding cooling performance was my number one parameter) that they are still like this today.Cases were the old standard Antec 1200.Next was side mounting some 480's on a 4U rack mount case.This has also worked out pretty good.Not real pretty but tremendously fuctional. I also did a HAF932 where I ran cooling hoses from a rig that contained pump,rad,res and the HAF932 just had the blocks in it.The great thing about water cooling is you get to work with your own ideas.I did not have the desire to mod the HAF in any way to accept radiators.
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They are very optimistically specced, at least for the 140mm model. I would say either Bgears Blasters or NZXT FX140LB will be much better options.

I will have a look but I was trying to avoid having a hurricane next me biggrin.gif
    
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The NZXT ones can be turned down as low as 1000rpm with the in line controller (it's a Low/Mex/High type = 1000/1500/2000rpm), but with a "real" fan controller you could just leave It on 'high' and control the speed from the separate controller to be able to fine-tune speeds much better.
     
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The NZXT ones can be turned down as low as 1000rpm with the in line controller (it's a Low/Mex/High type = 1000/1500/2000rpm), but with a "real" fan controller you could just leave It on 'high' and control the speed from the separate controller to be able to fine-tune speeds much better.

Ok....now I don't know much about water cool as you may already know biggrin.gif but wouldn't turning down the fans with a controller loose any benefits the high CFM fans may have? Ie wouldn't it be just as effective to get a quieter low CFM fan if I am just going to reduce the speed on a high CFM fan?confused.gif
    
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Well, the benefit is that you can have quiet fans when you want, but still be able to crank them up for when you need some serious cooling power. Or alternatively you can alter the speed of intake vs exhaust fans to create negative or positive pressure in your case. The in line speed adjustment simply alters the voltage (high is 12V, medium is 7v, low is 5v)So keeping them on high and using a fan controller means that you don't have two sources of voltage control competing with one another. I can't imagine it would be good to have a fan controller pushing 12V when the fan wires are saying "No! I want 7V! Harrumph!", but even at speeds lower than 2000rpm they still push a lot of air. I think that the rating is 98.3cfm @ 2000rpm, around 70-75cfm @ 1500rpm, and 55-60cfm @ 1000rpm. The second two are estimates but I imagine they are fairly close.
     
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Well, the benefit is that you can have quiet fans when you want, but still be able to crank them up for when you need some serious cooling power. Or alternatively you can alter the speed of intake vs exhaust fans to create negative or positive pressure in your case. The in line speed adjustment simply alters the voltage (high is 12V, medium is 7v, low is 5v)So keeping them on high and using a fan controller means that you don't have two sources of voltage control competing with one another. I can't imagine it would be good to have a fan controller pushing 12V when the fan wires are saying "No! I want 7V! Harrumph!", but even at speeds lower than 2000rpm they still push a lot of air. I think that the rating is 98.3cfm @ 2000rpm, around 70-75cfm @ 1500rpm, and 55-60cfm @ 1000rpm. The second two are estimates but I imagine they are fairly close.

Makes sense thanks thumb.gif
    
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dont put a rad between the CPU and the GPU... it doesnt help with performance, and it makes it unnecessarily complicated.

as for changing the speed of the fans, you can always get a SPDT switch, and use that to switch the positive lead between the 5v and the 12v for two different speeds.

or you could make 12v the one that doesnt change, and switch the negative lead between the 0v and the 5v, which means you will be switching the fans between 12v power and 7v of power.

basically, using one switch you can have full power / 40% power or you can have full power / 60% power depending on the setup you use.
Edited by Skoobs - 8/5/12 at 7:46pm
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