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He unfortunately is. I'm actually still shocked he's on the forums, should have seen the tirades he went on when the new OCN launched. It was like admin abducted his first born, and got AMD tattooed on his baby's forehead, permanently slowing his son's development and performance or something. tongue.gif

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Won't matter to the end user will just make the OEMs mad and might take another hour for the pirates to crack it. They're wasting their time.
    
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as usual, this again will be hacked. no such thing as bulletproof in this industry. as software security improves, hackers also improves.
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Fewer people will be inclined to pirate now they have reduced the retail cost. Who wants all of that ballache over 50 bucks?

Even the most seasoned of pirates may think otherwise this time around.

I don't like Windows 8 at all, personally. Makes everything harder to get done. I'm just worried about while everyone is busy making their minds up, the likes of nVidia will have trouble pushing out as frequent driver updates with an additional and new OS to consider.
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Honestly xp was a good os 98,xp,7 same only os worth mentioning. Me was a Terrible os crashing all time and vista was a memory eater. 8 I only used for about 10 mins worst crap ever installing Debian and building a server was eaSier than using windows 8 hate metro so much. Enough ranting for now.
This silly argument again. MS OSes usually dont release well.


95 had issues than 98 had issues until SE was released
ME was trash ill give you that
NT 4.0 had issues until SP1
WIn 2000 was fairly great from the get go but SP 1 was a hell of an improvement
XP was horrible until SP1, and was great after SP3 (For its time)
Vista was "horrible" until SP1 because OEMs tried to run it on underpowered hardware
Windows 7 was pretty great from the get go (with about the same performance and system requirements of Vista)
Windows 8 - Whole new UI - Everyone is acting like the world ended. (but it performes better than 7 and vista on the same hardware)

An why would anyone use XP over Vista, 7 or 8? It is far mor insecure, is not designed to take advantage of newer hardware

I used windows 8. And I really didnt really care for metro untill i got used to it, but i didnt have any issues using it and i did notice a lot of improvements in the speed of the machine. Not to mention I hardly see metro as I work from the desktop 99.9% of the time. And i have to say, I'm sorry but trying a new UI for 10 minutes is not giving it a chance, all you are doing is giving yourself fuel to hate something because it is different.
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Not to mention I hardly see metro as I work from the desktop 99.9% of the time. And i have to say, I'm sorry but trying a new UI for 10 minutes is not giving it a chance, all you are doing is giving yourself fuel to hate something because it is different.

Can't answer for someone else, but it's easier to avoid giving a Microsoft OS a three or four week 'spin-up' pass when they are notoriously poor at implementing new UI features and/or functions. Sure the same things could easily be said (and in fact, were said) about Lion in comparison to Snow Leopard in Apple-land. Some people (myself included) still think that. In many cases it's simply about need and use. And I've seen a few thousand pages dedicated to arguing for/against KDE vs Gnome vs Xfce vs ... vs ...

I haven't had enough time to fully convince myself that Win 8 is actually faster than 7 on the same hardware for the same operations... if that is actually the case in ALL of the games and apps that I run in Windows - then I would be happy to run it - however, it would have to be enough faster to be worth the hassle of migration. If you increase your system's speed with a 2% better OC... it only costs a small amount of additional electricity (usually pennies) so it might as well be free. If an OS is 2% faster but you spend 20 hours trying to find where things have been put 'to make it prettier' or have to give up compatibility with hardware X or software Y due to obsolescence... then that's a pretty damn expensive increase.

Of course, much of that boils down to individual situations. If I were still an unemployed student living at home - I'd switch to just about anything in a heartbeat... and did (despite there not being many options 20 years ago for that). Now it's got to have one hell of a ROI if I'm going to have to spend even 20-30 hours I don't have to spare checking compatibility with all of my hardware and software before launching into a complete reload from scratch.

Now if you're talking about moving to 8 on a new built-from-scratch system... then my position differs greatly. In any case, I don't see Windows8 making the world stop hating Microsoft - but I certainly don't see it causing Linux to start gaining market share by the bucketful. I figure it will just continue the constant dribble that Apple takes away from Microsoft in the retail sector and do next to nothing one way or another as far as Microsoft's dominance in the enterprise (desktop-wise at least... server-wise might be a different story). wink.gif
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Fewer people will be inclined to pirate now they have reduced the retail cost. Who wants all of that ballache over 50 bucks?
Even the most seasoned of pirates may think otherwise this time around.
I don't like Windows 8 at all, personally. Makes everything harder to get done. I'm just worried about while everyone is busy making their minds up, the likes of nVidia will have trouble pushing out as frequent driver updates with an additional and new OS to consider.

 

False. Even if it is $40.00 for an upgrade to 8. It will still break pirating records. Im not paying for windows 8 nor am I saying im going to pirate it either but im not paying for it. Ill stay with 7

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Better hope you don't have to replace the motherboard on your OEM PC or you'll have to run out and drop a bunch of cash on a new Windows 8 lic.

Trash.
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Yep... I've run through my activation counter on numerous licenses (I like to wipe and reinstall a lot due to being very OCD - or fickle depending on how you look at it - about system configurations). I've never had a problem that 5 mins on the phone didn't resolve. Of course, even if I didn't want one for work-related environment testing I'd still have a Technet subscription... assuming you only buy Windows and Office... you've already paid for 10 'testing' licenses for both (+ everything else) in a subscription. I don't think I've ever had a windows box for myself that I didn't consider "under devlopment" anyway. lol
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