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You can change how many posts there are on a page. I have mine set to either 40 or 20, no clue. I only have 5 pages smile.gif
Perhaps there's something i changed in my profile some time ago then. Might have to tinker with that. I prefer as many replies as possible all on one page.
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I like some things about Timeline, but it seems very cluttered and clunky at times.
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Perhaps there's something i changed in my profile some time ago then. Might have to tinker with that. I prefer as many replies as possible all on one page.
The stock setting has a small amount of replies per page.
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I was not crazy about the new timeline either, but after a while of trying it out it grew on me. I think with time everybody will come to like it. It's not really that bad.
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If someone is handing out rancid sandwiches that could make you sick - do you just say "Hey man it's free, shut up and eat it"
You forget that Facebook uses your information to turn a profit, something lacking in your sandwich analogy. People are so fixated on price it is crazy - the service is free of financial burden but not free of others. We are talking about benefits and potential harms of using the service, the motivation and care of its stewards and the relative lack of recognition all of that is given by its users.
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If you get handed a rancid sandwich, don't whine about it. Just don't eat it. It's that simple. You don't like it, don't use it. The information that Facebook uses is clearly outlined in your privacy policy. If you are dumb enough to accept it, and post stuff you don't want others to see, or not securing your information, then it's your own fault. What's the harm in Facebook? If your information gets out, it's your own fault for making it public.

Let's say someone puts up a bulletin board in your neighborhood that everyone puts fun tidbits on. This board is public. It's basic. You know the public can see it, but currently only the neighbors care to look at it. Let's say someone tells someone on the other side of town what you put on there, let's say it wasn't meant for their eyes. It's your own fault for making it public. The board is just a board. Let's say they make more of these boards and they are synced across town. You have the option to delete your content. What are you going to do about it? Whine, of course.

Tell me how much you pay for Facebook.
Tell me if you post anything on facebook you don't want everyone to see.
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Wow, you're just as gullible and simple minded as SIMPSONATOR. Just because there are no monetary costs involved doesn't mean there aren't other types of cost. There's a price for everything, doesn't always have to do with money, get that through your thick skull will ya? rolleyes.gif
Last I checked I didn't pay for anything, any way shape or form. My use doesn't effect my personal wellbeing. Just be smart online. Geeze.
Edited by SIMPSONATOR - 8/6/12 at 1:25pm
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If you get handed a rancid sandwich, don't whine about it. Just don't eat it. It's that simple.

Ok lets work with this terribly inadequate analogy some more. If you see others eating it and you realize it is rancid - you stay quiet?
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The information that Facebook uses is clearly outlined in your privacy policy. If you are dumb enough to accept it, and post stuff you don't want others to see, or not securing your information, then it's your own fault.

It is fairly large consensus that terms of service, etc are widely ignored by most people. Justifying shady actions with it is a joke.
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Let's say someone puts up a bulletin board in your neighborhood that everyone puts fun tidbits on. This board is public. It's basic. You know the public can see it, but currently only the neighbors care to look at it. Let's say someone tells someone on the other side of town what you put on there, let's say it wasn't meant for their eyes. It's your own fault for making it public.

Sure, just like it would be my fault for eating the sandwich, and the same reason I don't have a Facebook profile, I'm no fool. But plenty of other people are, they don't realize the sandwich is bad and I'm not a complete misanthrope so I'm going to point out that their sandwich is bad, that their boss is reading their neighborhood board and that the sandwich man and board owner are getting filthy rich by telling everyone what they use to communicate in their social circles.
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Tell me how much you pay for Facebook.
Tell me if you post anything on facebook you don't want everyone to see.

I paid them with everything I ever posted, which they now own. The second question can't be answered without a context. I don't think I have, but then I don't know why everyone is looking now do I?

Look I'm not paranoid, I'm practical. I don't have a need for Facebook to communicate with my people and their actions speak very clearly to things that I can hook into life experiences with real people and real themes or patterns. It might never be an issue for most people, just like a lot of people drive drunk but never get into an accident. It doesn't make it a prudent idea given the cost and benefit of the arrangement based on your perception of risk.

And before someone tries, I'm not equating using Facebook to driving drunk - it is an illustration of perceived risk.
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I've seen coworkers fired for what they posted on facebook. I've also seen bosses crack down on workers for what they saw posted on facebook. I've also had to throw out applications because the applicant didn't have a facebook and my boss couldn't judge their character.

Facebook is your corporate life, not your private life.

Even worse is if you link your job to your page. Then everything you post represents your company and you will be watched.
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And? There's still much better ways of doing it than it being on the internet in a way which anyone can easily access, one is simply having mutliple copies of the photos at other relatives houses.

1. You completely missed the point. You can give family members the login details for the account, that will be far more efficient that storing photos on their computers. The Facebook servers are far more stable than what most people have so there is no way they will become corrupt and you lose them forever

2. You can change the privacy settings so that no one can add you, see your picture or see anything about you, unless they have you as a friend. But even then you have to add them. If you change the privacy settings correctly the only people who can easily access it is those who have the login details and people who have added that account as a friend.

1) Not really, if you have 3-4 computers what is really the chances of every single one dying at once? Normal backups are even easier, or dropbox, google drive, etc. Facebook is a horrible way of archiving photos overall.

2) And facebook can still see all of that, and have proven to use it; I'd personally pick a service that isn't as likely to use my photos for purposes other than what I want. You can still access hidden images, even on blocked accounts, if you have the URL of the image jpg.
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Remember "it's a free service" people... nothing is free.
Lmao. No sense in beating a dead horse for someone who isn't using their dipstick.
Read some of the posts above yours and other pages you'll get the point...
What point is there to get? Do you pay for your facebook account?
When someone gives you a free sandwich, don't go complaining that they didn't give you cheese.

Except whenever I load up Facebook, I see these things called ads; apparently they give them some money for every pageview I give them, so no, while I'm not paying them directly I am giving them money. They also get money from selling the information I've given (Which is totally and completely real rolleyes.gif) them to certain companies, it's free in terms of money for me but certainly I do pay their bills simply by being a member and viewing.
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Ever heard the phrase "there is no free lunch in nature"?
edit - kikkO beat me to it.
How do you think Facebook pays its investors if it doesn't charge for membership?
I think

Through adverts that can easily be blocked using a browser add-on or, just don't look at them/click on them. We aren't actually paying money for facebook, the advertisers are. Therefore we are not paying for facebook.

And if, like me, you've whitelisted sites without annoying ads or sites that you view very often? I'm not paying, no, but I am certainly not getting the service for free, just very little.
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I've seen coworkers fired for what they posted on facebook. I've also seen bosses crack down on workers for what they saw posted on facebook. I've also had to throw out applications because the applicant didn't have a facebook and my boss couldn't judge their character.

Facebook is your corporate life, not your private life.

Even worse is if you link your job to your page. Then everything you post represents your company and you will be watched.

While this is true it's not really what he's still saying, want a test? Open a new Facebook, Amazon and eBay account with the same email, only talk about AMD laptops from say, HP on Facebook and like/comment on the relevant pages, within a year you'll have plenty of emails from Amazon and eBay (On an otherwise inactive account) about HP laptops running AMD chips, this is due to Facebook selling your information to other companies in order to make more money. This is how you pay for Facebook, even if you block ads; it's only the users who have a separate Facebook email, etc who don't really pay anything for Facebook.
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You can still access hidden images, even on blocked accounts, if you have the URL of the image jpg.

Actually this was a bug and has been fixed subsequently.
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You can still access hidden images, even on blocked accounts, if you have the URL of the image jpg.

Actually this was a bug and has been fixed subsequently.

You sure about that? I've still been able to recently.
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Corsair Force Series 3 120GB DVD-RW slimline Arch Linux x86_86 - LXDE 15.6" 1366x768 LED Backlit Display 
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Corsair Force 3 120GB  Crucial M4 256GB Western Digital Black 1TB WD1002FAEX Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 
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Samsung EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB Pioneer DVR-220LBKS Noctua NH-D14 Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1850rpm 
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Corsair AF140 Quiet Edition Stock PCS+ Cooler (HD7950) OpenSUSE Linux 12.3 64bit Windows 8 Pro 64bit with ClassicShell 
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BenQ G2220HD Samsung SyncMaster 710v Ducky Shine II White LED, Cherry Blue Silverstone Strider Plus 500w 
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NZXT Sentry Mesh 30w Fan Controller 
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Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 Intel DG965SS ASUS Radeon x700 256MB G.Skill F2-6400CL5D-4GBNT 
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Western Digital Scorpio Blue 500GB LG Blu-Ray Reader/DVD writer combo Intel Stock 775 Cooler XMBCBuntu 
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Sony Bravia 55" TV Logitech Wireless FSP 420w Cheap Beige 
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Logitech Wireless Onboard 
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Intel Core i3 370M @ 2.4Ghz Samsung R540 H55 Radeon HD545v 1GB 8GB DDR3-1066Mhz CL7 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Corsair Force Series 3 120GB DVD-RW slimline Arch Linux x86_86 - LXDE 15.6" 1366x768 LED Backlit Display 
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