Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Other Cooling Discussions › Arctic Silver 5 no longer king?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Arctic Silver 5 no longer king?

Poll Results: Which TIM?

 
  • 27% (12)
    Prolimatech; PK-3, PK-2, PK-1
  • 11% (5)
    Coollaboratory liquid; Ultra, Pro
  • 13% (6)
    IC Diamond; 24 carat, 7 carat
  • 20% (9)
    Artic Silver 5
  • 25% (11)
    Other
43 Total Votes  
post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Back in 2008, I remember AS5 was considered one of the end-all-be-all of TIMs, but it seems that has changed.

I've seen PK-3, Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra and Pro and IC Diamond. Am I missing any?

It seems like PK-3 shouldn't be too much different than AS5 - but it would be better as aluminum outperforms silver (which outperforms gold) when it comes to conductivity.

I'm wary about Coollaboratory's offerings, as I am familiar with the chemistry of gallium, aluminum and silicon. Specifically, Gallium is "electron-deficient" - yet cannot strongly hold electrons that it comes in contact with. It is so deficient that it will bond to other conductors and semi-conductors that are already normally considered "electron-deficient". They've been using gallium arsenide for years to cut silicon in CPUs to increase it's performance (increasing the "distance" between the electron-charges in p-type and n-type conductors, thus allowing the gates of transistors to operate at greater frequencies).
If it wasn't for the layer of copper in most IHSs, I would flat out refuse to use Coollab's thermal pastes.
I'll ignore the fact the Gallium is not only conductive, but capacitive.

As for IC Diamond's paste, I'm not crazy about having to put any of my boards into an oven, like I've read that so many people who use IC Diamond have to do (on top of the pre-heating it in hot water).

What are everyone's thoughts? Do any one of these TIMs outperform AS5 so greatly that it out-weighs their inherent hassles/risks?
 
The Station
(18 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770k Asus Maximus V Formula PNY GTX 260 Core 216 Mushkin Enhanced Redline 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Hitachi HDP725032GLA Western Digital WD75 01AALS-00J7B Seagate ST350032 0AS Western Digital WD15 EADS-00P8B0 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Asus DVD+/-RW Corsair H100 Windows 7 Professional x64 Asus VE47H 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer AL2016W Logitech G510 XIGMATEK "No Rules Power" 750w Semi-Modular HAF X 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Logitech G9x Rocketfish reversible gaming pad Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Cougar CF-V12HPB 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-2600 ASUS Sabertooth P67 Zotac GT 430 Mushkin Enhanced Redline 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Corsair Force GT III Seagate Baracuda Light Scribe LH-20A1L Corsair H100 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Cougar CF-V12HP Cougar CF-H12H Windows Professional 64-bit Acer AL2016W 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech WAVE Silverstone Strider Gold ST75F-G Antec P280 Logitech G9 
AudioOther
M-Audio Delta 1010LT Behrunger Europower PMP6000 
  hide details  
Reply
 
The Station
(18 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770k Asus Maximus V Formula PNY GTX 260 Core 216 Mushkin Enhanced Redline 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Hitachi HDP725032GLA Western Digital WD75 01AALS-00J7B Seagate ST350032 0AS Western Digital WD15 EADS-00P8B0 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Asus DVD+/-RW Corsair H100 Windows 7 Professional x64 Asus VE47H 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer AL2016W Logitech G510 XIGMATEK "No Rules Power" 750w Semi-Modular HAF X 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Logitech G9x Rocketfish reversible gaming pad Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Cougar CF-V12HPB 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-2600 ASUS Sabertooth P67 Zotac GT 430 Mushkin Enhanced Redline 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Corsair Force GT III Seagate Baracuda Light Scribe LH-20A1L Corsair H100 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Cougar CF-V12HP Cougar CF-H12H Windows Professional 64-bit Acer AL2016W 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech WAVE Silverstone Strider Gold ST75F-G Antec P280 Logitech G9 
AudioOther
M-Audio Delta 1010LT Behrunger Europower PMP6000 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 19
IC diamond has ..ground diamonds in it..I know someone around here who swears by it....whistle.gif
It will abrade the writing off of IHS..definitely not good to delid with..Works good..

Shin-etsu is pretty good stuff.

My favorite is MX-4 ...AS5 is very schticky and hard to clean.
When this tube of AS5 runs out..I'll be getting mx-4.

Idk about the Coollab liquid pro..Hmm..From ZombieEinstein's post..It's got me wanting to paint some on a cpu die and see if clocks higher redface.gif
Edited by Schmuckley - 8/5/12 at 8:35pm
AMD Machine
(14 items)
 
Dedicated Backup
(14 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Sempron 145 powah! er..or..Thuban with 4 coars ;) Crosshair 4 GT 240 Samsung @ 7-8-8-20 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingMonitor
OCZ Agility2 40GB Lite-On Rasa Waterblock + Bong Samsung 2 ms 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
dell Thermaltake Tr2-800 Elite 330 cheap 
Mouse PadAudio
Newegg box flap onboard 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500K Gimped @ stock Gigabyte H61-DS2 XFX 5870 800/1250 The Samsung RAM (Awesomeness) 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial m4 64 Sunbeamtech Core-Contact 92 attached via zip-ties. Varies Samsung 2ms 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
varies Corsair GS800 eMachine cheap 
Mouse PadAudio
Newegg Box Panel onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
AMD Machine
(14 items)
 
Dedicated Backup
(14 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Sempron 145 powah! er..or..Thuban with 4 coars ;) Crosshair 4 GT 240 Samsung @ 7-8-8-20 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingMonitor
OCZ Agility2 40GB Lite-On Rasa Waterblock + Bong Samsung 2 ms 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
dell Thermaltake Tr2-800 Elite 330 cheap 
Mouse PadAudio
Newegg box flap onboard 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500K Gimped @ stock Gigabyte H61-DS2 XFX 5870 800/1250 The Samsung RAM (Awesomeness) 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial m4 64 Sunbeamtech Core-Contact 92 attached via zip-ties. Varies Samsung 2ms 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
varies Corsair GS800 eMachine cheap 
Mouse PadAudio
Newegg Box Panel onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 19
I believe the top TIM at the moment is PK-3. PK-1 was very close to the top for some time and PK-3 is a decent improvement. Of course, even PK-3 isn't quite as good as Indigo Xtreme.
Captivity
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3820 EVGA X79 FTW MSI 7950TF3 Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
WD Caviar Black Swiftech Helix 120mm FrozenQ Fusion V 250mm Fluorescent Blue XSPC EX480 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Primochill Primoflex Advanced LRT Monsoon Free Center Compression Fittings XSPC EX420 DT Direct 2011 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bitspower 90 Degree Angle Fittings XSPC EX420 Cougar CF-V14HB Vortex PMP-450S 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Microsoft Windows 8 Professional 64bit Acer 23" Fractal Design 750w CaseLabs Merlin ST10 
  hide details  
Reply
Captivity
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3820 EVGA X79 FTW MSI 7950TF3 Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
WD Caviar Black Swiftech Helix 120mm FrozenQ Fusion V 250mm Fluorescent Blue XSPC EX480 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Primochill Primoflex Advanced LRT Monsoon Free Center Compression Fittings XSPC EX420 DT Direct 2011 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bitspower 90 Degree Angle Fittings XSPC EX420 Cougar CF-V14HB Vortex PMP-450S 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Microsoft Windows 8 Professional 64bit Acer 23" Fractal Design 750w CaseLabs Merlin ST10 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 19
mx4 gets my vote
Micro Black Box
(17 items)
 
Mini Black Box
(12 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel Core i5 2500k Maximus Gene-Z/Gen3 MSI 6970 Lightning Corsair Vengeance 2x 4GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Corsair Force GT 2x 60GB  Corsair Force 3 2x 120GB Western Digital Cavial Blue 500GB LG Blu-ray Reader/Writer 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H100 Windows 7 Pro Westinghouse 40 inch 1080p LCD Logitech K800 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair TX650M Fractal Design Arc Mini Logitech Anywhere MX Logitech G930 
Other
Logitech C910 Webcam 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3570k Asrock Z77E-ITX EVGA GTX 580 SC Samsung 8GB DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
Samsung Series 830 128GB SSD Cooler Master Gemin ii S524 Windows 7 Home Premium Logitech K800 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
SilverStone 600W SilverStone SG08 Logitech Anywhere Mouse MX Sennheiser HD 558 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel 3570k asrock z77e-itx evga gtx 680 4gb samsung green ddr3 8gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
samsung 840 pro 128gb western digital caviar blue 1tb apogee drive ii 2x alphacool nexxxos xt45 360mm 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
gtx 680 waterblock windows 7 home premium asus vg248qe logitech k800 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
silverstone sg08 built in 600w silverstone sg08 logitech performance mx sennheiser pc 360 
OtherOther
custom sg08 pedestal/radiator case reservoir, fittings, hoses, etc. 
  hide details  
Reply
Micro Black Box
(17 items)
 
Mini Black Box
(12 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel Core i5 2500k Maximus Gene-Z/Gen3 MSI 6970 Lightning Corsair Vengeance 2x 4GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Corsair Force GT 2x 60GB  Corsair Force 3 2x 120GB Western Digital Cavial Blue 500GB LG Blu-ray Reader/Writer 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H100 Windows 7 Pro Westinghouse 40 inch 1080p LCD Logitech K800 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair TX650M Fractal Design Arc Mini Logitech Anywhere MX Logitech G930 
Other
Logitech C910 Webcam 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3570k Asrock Z77E-ITX EVGA GTX 580 SC Samsung 8GB DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
Samsung Series 830 128GB SSD Cooler Master Gemin ii S524 Windows 7 Home Premium Logitech K800 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
SilverStone 600W SilverStone SG08 Logitech Anywhere Mouse MX Sennheiser HD 558 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel 3570k asrock z77e-itx evga gtx 680 4gb samsung green ddr3 8gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
samsung 840 pro 128gb western digital caviar blue 1tb apogee drive ii 2x alphacool nexxxos xt45 360mm 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
gtx 680 waterblock windows 7 home premium asus vg248qe logitech k800 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
silverstone sg08 built in 600w silverstone sg08 logitech performance mx sennheiser pc 360 
OtherOther
custom sg08 pedestal/radiator case reservoir, fittings, hoses, etc. 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 19
MX-4 is great ... Currently I am using Coolermaster ThermalFusion 400 on my 2500k @ 4.8ghz using a Silver Arrow (original) ... and I am seeing good results with it ...
Gaming Rig
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500K @ 4.8Ghz (aiming for 5ghz on air) Asus P8P67 Evo EVGA GTX 680 SC - Sig @ 1250\3168 8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda XT LG Super Multi Liteon Bluray Drive Thermalright Silver Arrow 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 7 Ultimate (x64) Dell U2412M CM Storm Quickfire Rapid Corsair TX650W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Silverstone Raven 02-E White (0031) CM Storm Z3Ro-G (Worst buy ever) Roccat Sota Asus Xonar DG 
  hide details  
Reply
Gaming Rig
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500K @ 4.8Ghz (aiming for 5ghz on air) Asus P8P67 Evo EVGA GTX 680 SC - Sig @ 1250\3168 8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda XT LG Super Multi Liteon Bluray Drive Thermalright Silver Arrow 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 7 Ultimate (x64) Dell U2412M CM Storm Quickfire Rapid Corsair TX650W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Silverstone Raven 02-E White (0031) CM Storm Z3Ro-G (Worst buy ever) Roccat Sota Asus Xonar DG 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 19
PK1 here.

So easy to work with.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II 955 C3 @ 4.0ghz / 1.488v Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 2.8ghz nb @1.325 Gigabyte GTX 480 SOC 2x4GB Mushkin Redline DDR3 1600 7-7-7-24 1T @1.65 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 Samsung SH-S223L Hyper 212+ Push Pull 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung SyncMaster S27B550 Microsoft Comfort Curve Corsair HX850 Coolermaster 690 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 Steel Series HQK Logitech Z-2300 Bigfoot Killer M1 NIC 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II 955 C3 @ 4.0ghz / 1.488v Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 2.8ghz nb @1.325 Gigabyte GTX 480 SOC 2x4GB Mushkin Redline DDR3 1600 7-7-7-24 1T @1.65 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 Samsung SH-S223L Hyper 212+ Push Pull 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung SyncMaster S27B550 Microsoft Comfort Curve Corsair HX850 Coolermaster 690 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 Steel Series HQK Logitech Z-2300 Bigfoot Killer M1 NIC 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post

IC diamond has ..ground diamonds in it..I know someone around here who swears by it....whistle.gif
It will abrade the writing off of IHS..definitely not good to delid with..Works good..

I mean, the diamond does make sense. It has the highest naturally occurring conductivity of any material we've ever discovered. something crazy high like 2,200 kw/m - copper and aluminum are only around 400 kw/m. The only other materials that beat Diamond are Graphene sheets and Carbon Nanotubes.
Fun fact: Carbon nanotubes exhibit something called "Ballistic conductance", meaning heat travels down, along their axis, faster than it should. Near instantly. At the same time, Carbon Nanotubes have about the same conductance as dirt (literally) with heat traveling across their axis. They are both great conductors and insulators, at the same time. Now, it only you could stand a bunch on their ends between your CPU and heat sink... (without baking your CPU inside a several-thousand-degress oven filled with corrosive gases)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post

Idk about the Coollab liquid pro..Hmm..From ZombieEinstein's post..It's got me wanting to paint some on a cpu die and see if clocks higher redface.gif

I suppose if you look at it that way. Just be ready to never get the heat sink or water block off. I know they show the video of "removing it in seconds", but I suspect it was filmed immediately after applying it, and it counts on you being able to get the heat sink detached in the first place. I you know you will never be taking the heat sink or water block off, go for it - just be sure you don't get any on the "sides" of the IHS, or be sure that the copper in the IHS goes down the "sides" (before being covered in aluminum) as well - and that the IHS has copper in it in the first place. It would suck if your CPU shorted out after a few years simply because the Coollab's liquid finally made it through to the circuity.

The only way I can see getting it off... I don't know... a lot of paitence, a heat gun and some isopropyl applied to the joint between the CPU and heat sink, a little at a time?
 
The Station
(18 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770k Asus Maximus V Formula PNY GTX 260 Core 216 Mushkin Enhanced Redline 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Hitachi HDP725032GLA Western Digital WD75 01AALS-00J7B Seagate ST350032 0AS Western Digital WD15 EADS-00P8B0 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Asus DVD+/-RW Corsair H100 Windows 7 Professional x64 Asus VE47H 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer AL2016W Logitech G510 XIGMATEK "No Rules Power" 750w Semi-Modular HAF X 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Logitech G9x Rocketfish reversible gaming pad Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Cougar CF-V12HPB 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-2600 ASUS Sabertooth P67 Zotac GT 430 Mushkin Enhanced Redline 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Corsair Force GT III Seagate Baracuda Light Scribe LH-20A1L Corsair H100 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Cougar CF-V12HP Cougar CF-H12H Windows Professional 64-bit Acer AL2016W 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech WAVE Silverstone Strider Gold ST75F-G Antec P280 Logitech G9 
AudioOther
M-Audio Delta 1010LT Behrunger Europower PMP6000 
  hide details  
Reply
 
The Station
(18 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770k Asus Maximus V Formula PNY GTX 260 Core 216 Mushkin Enhanced Redline 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Hitachi HDP725032GLA Western Digital WD75 01AALS-00J7B Seagate ST350032 0AS Western Digital WD15 EADS-00P8B0 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Asus DVD+/-RW Corsair H100 Windows 7 Professional x64 Asus VE47H 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer AL2016W Logitech G510 XIGMATEK "No Rules Power" 750w Semi-Modular HAF X 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Logitech G9x Rocketfish reversible gaming pad Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Cougar CF-V12HPB 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-2600 ASUS Sabertooth P67 Zotac GT 430 Mushkin Enhanced Redline 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Corsair Force GT III Seagate Baracuda Light Scribe LH-20A1L Corsair H100 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Cougar CF-V12HP Cougar CF-H12H Windows Professional 64-bit Acer AL2016W 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech WAVE Silverstone Strider Gold ST75F-G Antec P280 Logitech G9 
AudioOther
M-Audio Delta 1010LT Behrunger Europower PMP6000 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZombieEinstein View Post

It seems like PK-3 shouldn't be too much different than AS5 - but it would be better as aluminum outperforms silver (which outperforms gold) when it comes to conductivity.

Aluminum is worse than silver, copper, or gold, when it comes to thermal conductivity. As far as metals go, it's silver, copper, gold, then aluminum, in descending order, with regards to thermal conductivity.

Anyway, the material used as filler is less important than the shape, size, stability, and proportion of fillers relative to it's liquid binder.

The best performing TIMs are pure metals, either solder, or liquid metal. The next best performing TIMs are based on combinations of metallic aluminum (with an antioxidant in the binder) and various ceramics. There are many TIMs that use highly conductive fillers (like silver in AS5, or diamonds in IC7), that still cannot outperform the best of the ceramic based TIMs.
Edited by Blameless - 8/6/12 at 3:44am
Primary (SB-E)
(15 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
3930K (C2) @ 4.3GHz, HT on, 1.308v GA-X79S-UP5 (F4v) Radeon 7950, 1053/1650, 1.163v GPU, 1.65v mem, ... Radeon 7950, 1080/1675, 1.081v GPU, 1.65v mem, ... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
32GiB Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @ 1600, 8-8-8-24-T2,... Kingston V+100 96GB 4x WD Scorpio Black 500GB RAID 10 3x Hitachi 7k1000.C 1TB RAID 0 
CoolingOSKeyboardPower
Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 + 2x NF-P14 + PK-1 (TIM) Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 Enterprise Flico Majestouch Tenkeyless (MX Brown) Antec True Power New 750w 
CaseMouseAudio
Fractal Design Define R4 + 6 Cougar CF-V14HB CM Storm Spawn (firmware 61) Realtek ALC898 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 970 3012B113 @ 4GHz, 1.264v, HT On Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 2.0 Radeon 6870 1GB Radeon 5750 @ 918/300 (cryptography coprocessor) 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
6x4GiB Samsung MV-3V4G3 @ 1600, 8-8-8-24-T2, 1.4v 1TB Hitachi 7K1000.C, 2x250GB Seagate 7200.10s Prolimatech Genesis Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 
MonitorMonitorPowerCase
ASUS 22" Acer 22" Enermax Modu82+ 625w Antec P182 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8150 @ 4.52GHz (210x21.5), 1.45v load GA-970A-UD3 rev 1.0 (F8a BIOS) Radeon 6950 @ 945/1425, 1.2v 4x8GiB G.Skill Ares @ 1680, 9-10-9-28-T2, 1.5v 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung F3 1TB 2x Samsung F3 500GB RAID 0 Lapped TRUE + Panflo FBA12G12H1BX Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 
MonitorPowerCase
Dell S2740L (27", 1920x1080, 7ms, IPS) Corsair TX650w Cooler Master HAF 932 
  hide details  
Reply
Primary (SB-E)
(15 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
3930K (C2) @ 4.3GHz, HT on, 1.308v GA-X79S-UP5 (F4v) Radeon 7950, 1053/1650, 1.163v GPU, 1.65v mem, ... Radeon 7950, 1080/1675, 1.081v GPU, 1.65v mem, ... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
32GiB Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @ 1600, 8-8-8-24-T2,... Kingston V+100 96GB 4x WD Scorpio Black 500GB RAID 10 3x Hitachi 7k1000.C 1TB RAID 0 
CoolingOSKeyboardPower
Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 + 2x NF-P14 + PK-1 (TIM) Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 Enterprise Flico Majestouch Tenkeyless (MX Brown) Antec True Power New 750w 
CaseMouseAudio
Fractal Design Define R4 + 6 Cougar CF-V14HB CM Storm Spawn (firmware 61) Realtek ALC898 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 970 3012B113 @ 4GHz, 1.264v, HT On Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 2.0 Radeon 6870 1GB Radeon 5750 @ 918/300 (cryptography coprocessor) 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
6x4GiB Samsung MV-3V4G3 @ 1600, 8-8-8-24-T2, 1.4v 1TB Hitachi 7K1000.C, 2x250GB Seagate 7200.10s Prolimatech Genesis Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 
MonitorMonitorPowerCase
ASUS 22" Acer 22" Enermax Modu82+ 625w Antec P182 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8150 @ 4.52GHz (210x21.5), 1.45v load GA-970A-UD3 rev 1.0 (F8a BIOS) Radeon 6950 @ 945/1425, 1.2v 4x8GiB G.Skill Ares @ 1680, 9-10-9-28-T2, 1.5v 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung F3 1TB 2x Samsung F3 500GB RAID 0 Lapped TRUE + Panflo FBA12G12H1BX Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 
MonitorPowerCase
Dell S2740L (27", 1920x1080, 7ms, IPS) Corsair TX650w Cooler Master HAF 932 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blameless View Post

Aluminum is worse than silver, copper, or gold, when it comes to thermal conductivity. As far as metals go, it's silver, copper, gold, then aluminum, in descending order, with regards to thermal conductivity.
Anyway, the material used as filler is less important than the shape, size, stability, and proportion of fillers relative to it's liquid binder.

this! silver is the best conductor, the only reason why we are using copper wires is because it's cheaper, and the reason why some connectors are gold plated is because it's malleable,
Micro Black Box
(17 items)
 
Mini Black Box
(12 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel Core i5 2500k Maximus Gene-Z/Gen3 MSI 6970 Lightning Corsair Vengeance 2x 4GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Corsair Force GT 2x 60GB  Corsair Force 3 2x 120GB Western Digital Cavial Blue 500GB LG Blu-ray Reader/Writer 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H100 Windows 7 Pro Westinghouse 40 inch 1080p LCD Logitech K800 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair TX650M Fractal Design Arc Mini Logitech Anywhere MX Logitech G930 
Other
Logitech C910 Webcam 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3570k Asrock Z77E-ITX EVGA GTX 580 SC Samsung 8GB DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
Samsung Series 830 128GB SSD Cooler Master Gemin ii S524 Windows 7 Home Premium Logitech K800 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
SilverStone 600W SilverStone SG08 Logitech Anywhere Mouse MX Sennheiser HD 558 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel 3570k asrock z77e-itx evga gtx 680 4gb samsung green ddr3 8gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
samsung 840 pro 128gb western digital caviar blue 1tb apogee drive ii 2x alphacool nexxxos xt45 360mm 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
gtx 680 waterblock windows 7 home premium asus vg248qe logitech k800 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
silverstone sg08 built in 600w silverstone sg08 logitech performance mx sennheiser pc 360 
OtherOther
custom sg08 pedestal/radiator case reservoir, fittings, hoses, etc. 
  hide details  
Reply
Micro Black Box
(17 items)
 
Mini Black Box
(12 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel Core i5 2500k Maximus Gene-Z/Gen3 MSI 6970 Lightning Corsair Vengeance 2x 4GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Corsair Force GT 2x 60GB  Corsair Force 3 2x 120GB Western Digital Cavial Blue 500GB LG Blu-ray Reader/Writer 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H100 Windows 7 Pro Westinghouse 40 inch 1080p LCD Logitech K800 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair TX650M Fractal Design Arc Mini Logitech Anywhere MX Logitech G930 
Other
Logitech C910 Webcam 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3570k Asrock Z77E-ITX EVGA GTX 580 SC Samsung 8GB DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
Samsung Series 830 128GB SSD Cooler Master Gemin ii S524 Windows 7 Home Premium Logitech K800 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
SilverStone 600W SilverStone SG08 Logitech Anywhere Mouse MX Sennheiser HD 558 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel 3570k asrock z77e-itx evga gtx 680 4gb samsung green ddr3 8gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
samsung 840 pro 128gb western digital caviar blue 1tb apogee drive ii 2x alphacool nexxxos xt45 360mm 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
gtx 680 waterblock windows 7 home premium asus vg248qe logitech k800 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
silverstone sg08 built in 600w silverstone sg08 logitech performance mx sennheiser pc 360 
OtherOther
custom sg08 pedestal/radiator case reservoir, fittings, hoses, etc. 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZombieEinstein View Post

I suppose if you look at it that way. Just be ready to never get the heat sink or water block off. I know they show the video of "removing it in seconds", but I suspect it was filmed immediately after applying it, and it counts on you being able to get the heat sink detached in the first place. I you know you will never be taking the heat sink or water block off, go for it - just be sure you don't get any on the "sides" of the IHS, or be sure that the copper in the IHS goes down the "sides" (before being covered in aluminum) as well - and that the IHS has copper in it in the first place. It would suck if your CPU shorted out after a few years simply because the Coollab's liquid finally made it through to the circuity.
The only way I can see getting it off... I don't know... a lot of paitence, a heat gun and some isopropyl applied to the joint between the CPU and heat sink, a little at a time?

I've used Liquid Pro and Liquid Ultra before and have not had significant trouble removing heatsinks or blocks from processors. Also, the coating on AMD and Intel IHSes is nickel, not aluminum.

If you are applying enough for it to overflow the sides, you are applying too much.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghostrider85 View Post

this! silver is the best conductor, the only reason why we are using copper wires is because it's cheaper, and the reason why some connectors are gold plated is because it's malleable,

Electrical and thermal conductivity are not always related, but in general, you are correct. Copper an aluminum are largely used for economic and weight reasons.

Gold is used because it's extremely non-reactive; it doesn't oxidize and can't corrode unless it's exposed very powerful acids. This isn't true of silver, copper, or aluminum. A thin layer of gold does almost nothing to hurt electrical or thermal conductivity (as it's a pretty decent conductor and can be applied very thinly), and it provides excellent protection.
Edited by Blameless - 8/6/12 at 3:57am
Primary (SB-E)
(15 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
3930K (C2) @ 4.3GHz, HT on, 1.308v GA-X79S-UP5 (F4v) Radeon 7950, 1053/1650, 1.163v GPU, 1.65v mem, ... Radeon 7950, 1080/1675, 1.081v GPU, 1.65v mem, ... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
32GiB Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @ 1600, 8-8-8-24-T2,... Kingston V+100 96GB 4x WD Scorpio Black 500GB RAID 10 3x Hitachi 7k1000.C 1TB RAID 0 
CoolingOSKeyboardPower
Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 + 2x NF-P14 + PK-1 (TIM) Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 Enterprise Flico Majestouch Tenkeyless (MX Brown) Antec True Power New 750w 
CaseMouseAudio
Fractal Design Define R4 + 6 Cougar CF-V14HB CM Storm Spawn (firmware 61) Realtek ALC898 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 970 3012B113 @ 4GHz, 1.264v, HT On Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 2.0 Radeon 6870 1GB Radeon 5750 @ 918/300 (cryptography coprocessor) 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
6x4GiB Samsung MV-3V4G3 @ 1600, 8-8-8-24-T2, 1.4v 1TB Hitachi 7K1000.C, 2x250GB Seagate 7200.10s Prolimatech Genesis Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 
MonitorMonitorPowerCase
ASUS 22" Acer 22" Enermax Modu82+ 625w Antec P182 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8150 @ 4.52GHz (210x21.5), 1.45v load GA-970A-UD3 rev 1.0 (F8a BIOS) Radeon 6950 @ 945/1425, 1.2v 4x8GiB G.Skill Ares @ 1680, 9-10-9-28-T2, 1.5v 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung F3 1TB 2x Samsung F3 500GB RAID 0 Lapped TRUE + Panflo FBA12G12H1BX Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 
MonitorPowerCase
Dell S2740L (27", 1920x1080, 7ms, IPS) Corsair TX650w Cooler Master HAF 932 
  hide details  
Reply
Primary (SB-E)
(15 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
3930K (C2) @ 4.3GHz, HT on, 1.308v GA-X79S-UP5 (F4v) Radeon 7950, 1053/1650, 1.163v GPU, 1.65v mem, ... Radeon 7950, 1080/1675, 1.081v GPU, 1.65v mem, ... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
32GiB Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @ 1600, 8-8-8-24-T2,... Kingston V+100 96GB 4x WD Scorpio Black 500GB RAID 10 3x Hitachi 7k1000.C 1TB RAID 0 
CoolingOSKeyboardPower
Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 + 2x NF-P14 + PK-1 (TIM) Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 Enterprise Flico Majestouch Tenkeyless (MX Brown) Antec True Power New 750w 
CaseMouseAudio
Fractal Design Define R4 + 6 Cougar CF-V14HB CM Storm Spawn (firmware 61) Realtek ALC898 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 970 3012B113 @ 4GHz, 1.264v, HT On Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 2.0 Radeon 6870 1GB Radeon 5750 @ 918/300 (cryptography coprocessor) 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
6x4GiB Samsung MV-3V4G3 @ 1600, 8-8-8-24-T2, 1.4v 1TB Hitachi 7K1000.C, 2x250GB Seagate 7200.10s Prolimatech Genesis Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 
MonitorMonitorPowerCase
ASUS 22" Acer 22" Enermax Modu82+ 625w Antec P182 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8150 @ 4.52GHz (210x21.5), 1.45v load GA-970A-UD3 rev 1.0 (F8a BIOS) Radeon 6950 @ 945/1425, 1.2v 4x8GiB G.Skill Ares @ 1680, 9-10-9-28-T2, 1.5v 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung F3 1TB 2x Samsung F3 500GB RAID 0 Lapped TRUE + Panflo FBA12G12H1BX Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 
MonitorPowerCase
Dell S2740L (27", 1920x1080, 7ms, IPS) Corsair TX650w Cooler Master HAF 932 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Other Cooling Discussions
Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Other Cooling Discussions › Arctic Silver 5 no longer king?