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Hi OCN.

Currently, I have 4GB DDR3 1333MHz Samsung RAM.





I plan to buy this one ( The only brand available in my country ) :

http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-ValueRAM-Notebook-KVR1333D3S8S9-2G/dp/B003XMAD3G/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1344217713&sr=1-4&keywords=1333MHz+SODIMM+Notebook+Memory

My questions :

1 - After upgrading, I'll have dual channel memory, right ? Some guys told me that the sticks have to be identical.

2 - The 4GB stick is Samsung, the other one that I will be buying is Kingston, will this cause any issues ?

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Well, about a %50 chance the Memory will not run dual channel. Honestly, the 2 GB would not be worth it. Get 2 more 2 GB samsung sticks or another 4 GB stick.
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Unless your maxing your ram and need it for a particular situation. I also say don't bother. I bet it will probably run in dual channel fine. Ram is way cheap over here. PayPal someone some money and have them get you a nice cheap 8gb kit and mail it to you.

I'd be willing if you are so inclined. Good luck
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Well, about a %50 chance the Memory will not run dual channel. Honestly, the 2 GB would not be worth it. Get 2 more 2 GB samsung sticks or another 4 GB stick.

Thanks for your help smile.gif
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Unless your maxing your ram and need it for a particular situation. I also say don't bother. I bet it will probably run in dual channel fine. Ram is way cheap over here. PayPal someone some money and have them get you a nice cheap 8gb kit and mail it to you.
I'd be willing if you are so inclined. Good luck

It's not that I'm maxing my RAM. But people told me that Single Channel is slow and I should upgrade to Dual Channel, which I believe is true. RAM is not that cheap here in Egypt and it's not easy for me to buy it using PayPal or else.

So you're saying that the 2GB SODIMM will work ?

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I've run a couple of laptops with 6GB of DDR3, sticks were the same speed but different brand and it does run in dual-channel. The worst that can happen is, if the timings aren't matched, the faster stick will run at the slower timings (same 1333mhz though).

The confusion of running 2 sticks of a different size in dual-channel can be cleared up as follows-

If you have 2 sticks the same size, each one gets filled with half the data.
If you have 2 sticks, different size: Each gets filled with half the data, until the smallest stick gets filled. Then the larger stick gets filled with the remaining data. So once you go past 4GB of RAM usage, the remaining RAM will be read at single-channel speed. Anything in the 1st 4GB will be read at dual-channel speed. The OS takes care of the memory addressing, so you don't have to concern yourself with how Windows knows whether to read from both sticks for a piece of data, or from just one biggrin.gif

Now, I'm not sure if the OS is completely loaded onto the larger stick, but that would seem more efficient to me- OS doesn't need a ton of speed (of the 1GB that W7 uses, you're not going to do a ton of memory read/writes - I benched my dual-channel 8GB DDR3 at about 3GB/s, single-channel would be 1.5GB/s.. no way an OS would need 3GB/s), at least compared to some more intense programs.

At any rate, adding a 2GB stick will increase your bandwidth, even if you only need perhaps 4GB of RAM. It'll show up in synthetic benches, and probably in a couple of games, by a couple FPS here and there.
 
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Theoretically, there's a small chance that the sticks may be incompatible, although in recent times I haven't had any issues mixing and matching different DIMMs.

All recent Intel CPUs support Flex Memory Technology, which allows the highest matching capacity (i.e. the first 2GB) to run in dual-channel mode, and the remainder running in single-channel mode.
    
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I've run a couple of laptops with 6GB of DDR3, sticks were the same speed but different brand and it does run in dual-channel. The worst that can happen is, if the timings aren't matched, the faster stick will run at the slower timings (same 1333mhz though).
The confusion of running 2 sticks of a different size in dual-channel can be cleared up as follows-
If you have 2 sticks the same size, each one gets filled with half the data.
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Now, I'm not sure if the OS is completely loaded onto the larger stick, but that would seem more efficient to me- OS doesn't need a ton of speed (of the 1GB that W7 uses, you're not going to do a ton of memory read/writes - I benched my dual-channel 8GB DDR3 at about 3GB/s, single-channel would be 1.5GB/s.. no way an OS would need 3GB/s), at least compared to some more intense programs.
At any rate, adding a 2GB stick will increase your bandwidth, even if you only need perhaps 4GB of RAM. It'll show up in synthetic benches, and probably in a couple of games, by a couple FPS here and there.

Thank you so much, you really helped me.

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Theoretically, there's a small chance that the sticks may be incompatible, although in recent times I haven't had any issues mixing and matching different DIMMs.
All recent Intel CPUs support Flex Memory Technology, which allows the highest matching capacity (i.e. the first 2GB) to run in dual-channel mode, and the remainder running in single-channel mode.

Thanks. +rep
    
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Are you using this for a special purpose such as a ram intensive program or photo editing? I have alot of computers and none of them ever use more than 4GB of ram that I have seen except when I was using a niche image analysis software.
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Yeah determine whether u need it first. I idiotically bought some ram recently because I had a windows 'memory running out' error kill my l4d2 game. I was like, "hells nah", and then immediately bought 8gb. Turns out, I had pagefile off and that was the only reason the game crashed. Too lazy to cancel a 40$ order so i'm gonna upgrade, but check on ur pagefile status before sinking the dough.
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