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8/6/12 at 6:45am
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I just wonder why there is two transfer modes with equal (Someone told me that) amount of security but the differentiate in speed.

What is the difference between these protocols and is both equally good in security?
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8/6/12 at 7:13am
They are 2 different things smile.gif,

ftps is like traditional ftp but using ssl certificates to do the encryption and the security,

Whereas sftp is a subset of the ssh toolset which was designed to be secure in the first place,

Generaly SFTP is considered better over FTPS as it is easier to do (port 22) whereas FTPS uses 2 sets of ports, one for data and one for data, although the command port is set (21 also i think) the data ports can be varible and a headache for firewalls.


Their should be little difference in speed now as well, and the security is about the same so its just a matter of preference, hope this helps thumb.gif
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8/6/12 at 7:15am
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They are 2 different things smile.gif,
ftps is like traditional ftp but using ssl certificates to do the encryption and the security,
Whereas sftp is a subset of the ssh toolset which was designed to be secure in the first place,
Generaly SFTP is considered better over FTPS as it is easier to do (port 22) whereas FTPS uses 2 sets of ports, one for data and one for data, although the command port is set (21 also i think) the data ports can be varible and a headache for firewalls.
Their should be little difference in speed now as well, and the security is about the same so its just a matter of preference, hope this helps thumb.gif

Great thanks. But i think FTPES is FTP over TLS right?
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8/6/12 at 7:18am
Yup (its just ftps not ftpes smile.gif ),

tls is just the next version of ssl smile.gif
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8/6/12 at 9:08am
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Yup (its just ftps not ftpes smile.gif ),
tls is just the next version of ssl smile.gif
Okey thanks! =)
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8/6/12 at 9:33am
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They are 2 different things smile.gif,
ftps is like traditional ftp but using ssl certificates to do the encryption and the security,
Whereas sftp is a subset of the ssh toolset which was designed to be secure in the first place,
Generaly SFTP is considered better over FTPS as it is easier to do (port 22) whereas FTPS uses 2 sets of ports, one for data and one for data, although the command port is set (21 also i think) the data ports can be varible and a headache for firewalls.
Their should be little difference in speed now as well, and the security is about the same so its just a matter of preference, hope this helps thumb.gif
With regards to speed difference, I think SFTP supports compression (what with compression being a part of the SSH spec) where as FTPS does not. though if you're mainly transferring already compressed data (eg MPEG movies, MP3s or JPGs) then you wouldn't gain anything from the compression.

The NATing / firewall issues surrounding FTPS is a deal breaker in my opinion. frown.gif
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Yup (its just ftps not ftpes smile.gif ),
It's either - well you're right it's FTPS, but FTPES just means FTPS in explicit mode - which is still FTPS.
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8/6/12 at 9:38am
I run an FTPS server for personal use and I have had no problems with my NAT. I do not run it on the standard port, I just open up the necessary ports and was good to go. I have used both Filezilla server and ProtFTPD without issues from my NAT.

So go with whichever servers you better thumb.gif
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8/6/12 at 12:20pm
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With regards to speed difference, I think SFTP supports compression (what with compression being a part of the SSH spec) where as FTPS does not. though if you're mainly transferring already compressed data (eg MPEG movies, MP3s or JPGs) then you wouldn't gain anything from the compression.
The NATing / firewall issues surrounding FTPS is a deal breaker in my opinion. frown.gif
It's either - well you're right it's FTPS, but FTPES just means FTPS in explicit mode - which is still FTPS.
I just wrote what FileZilla is saying.
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I run an FTPS server for personal use and I have had no problems with my NAT. I do not run it on the standard port, I just open up the necessary ports and was good to go. I have used both Filezilla server and ProtFTPD without issues from my NAT.
So go with whichever servers you better thumb.gif
Yea it works with "FTPES" my server supports FXP transfers.
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8/6/12 at 12:23pm
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It's either - well you're right it's FTPS, but FTPES just means FTPS in explicit mode - which is still FTPS.


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sorry about that a gap in my knowlage biggrin.gif it can be ftpes my bad smile.gif
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8/6/12 at 1:24pm
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I run an FTPS server for personal use and I have had no problems with my NAT. I do not run it on the standard port, I just open up the necessary ports and was good to go. I have used both Filezilla server and ProtFTPD without issues from my NAT.
So go with whichever servers you better thumb.gif
The problem is there's NATing on both ends with adaptive firewalling - which is the typical set up for homes and businesses.

@Ulquiorra: lol we can't memorise every facet of every subject in IT. Though, if true be told, I was expecting you to say that i was only knew all this anyway laugher.gif
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