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post #11 of 28
10/13/12 at 11:00am
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The stock output tubes are listed as 6080/6AS7 and from what I've seen they are usually a Tung-Sol 6080 that come with the kit. The one that came with mine is an RCA 6AS7G. It's a transformerless output amp.
My 7mm end mill(s) came in the mail today. They sent me 2 when I ordered one. I've been getting a lot of bonus stuff from businesses lately. I have 9 more of the on/off PCBs that are sitting around collecting dust that I will sell. I ordered 1, they sent my 10. The ALPs PCB I ordered 1, they sent me 6, and so I have 4 extra (my math isn't wrong, I just put the silk screen on the wrong side and had to remove the potentiometer from the board and flip it around, so I just used a new board).

It's a nice project, I'm a big fan of tube amps, I just never seem to get them to a point where I'm absolutely happy, but I guess that's just me smile.gif

Anyway, sounds like you got luck on your side with the nice extra endmills, pcbs etc smile.gif
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post #12 of 28
11/13/12 at 9:39am
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I updated some posts elsewhere and on my own blog. It's finished. I got tired of waiting to figure out powder coating and machining, so here are a bunch of pics split up by date. I'd like to get some better pictures of it. All I have is a smartphone camera. and outdoor for lighting.

Mounting the on/off PCB:

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Getting everything mounted, but not wired yet:

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Finished:

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When I got it all together and powered on the tubes heated up like they should but I heard no sound. I went to test the high voltage line for the plates and got nothing. Ready to throw it out the window I started tracing that circuit section from the transformer output and found that I forgot to solder the final resistor in the power supply. It was extremely hidden under the capacitor, and it's a miracle I found it so soon. Once I soldered that and fired it back up everything went fine. It had been so long since I heard it, so it was impossible to make a comparison of what the Speedball did for the sound except that the background on silence is now completely black. It's definitely better than my STX's amp.
Edited by ramicio - 11/13/12 at 9:42am
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post #13 of 28
1/4/13 at 12:33pm
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Even though I like this amp, I can't recommend that anyone give Bottlehead money for their products. The owner runs a forum which props up and feeds off of delusions such as >$1,000 cables, the burn-in of said cables, burn-in of headphones, burn-in of tubes, etc. You really can't get any sanity through to anyone over there, and they expect everyone to act like some west-coast-san-fran-love-everyone-liberal-sandal-wearing hippie. They are people who believe that a WAV sounds better than a FLAC, that don't understand what comes out of a DAC is not a staircase, who think that a file played from a HDD will sound different from one off an SSD, and are people who think because they paid for an "education" that what they said is authoritative fact on a subject. It's just a smaller head-fi but of its own corporate influence.
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post #14 of 28
2/14/13 at 9:51am
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Even though I like this amp, I can't recommend that anyone give Bottlehead money for their products. The owner runs a forum which props up and feeds off of delusions such as >$1,000 cables, the burn-in of said cables, burn-in of headphones, burn-in of tubes, etc. You really can't get any sanity through to anyone over there, and they expect everyone to act like some west-coast-san-fran-love-everyone-liberal-sandal-wearing hippie. They are people who believe that a WAV sounds better than a FLAC, that don't understand what comes out of a DAC is not a staircase, who think that a file played from a HDD will sound different from one off an SSD, and are people who think because they paid for an "education" that what they said is authoritative fact on a subject. It's just a smaller head-fi but of its own corporate influence.
Yea I have to admit stuff like that is rather silly and def makes a company look like they are just out to get money.

That being said, I had a couple questions for you on your awesome rebuild/mod here. What power button did you use and where did you buy it? Also where did you have your PCBs made?
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2/25/13 at 8:40am
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Also, how much did it cost you to get the plate and to get it cut?
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2/25/13 at 8:49am
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I had the PCBs made at BatchPCB. Here is the link to the actual PCB I made. I have a whole bunch made, so if you PM me your address I can mail you one for free, otherwise you will have to pay more to order them and probably get 10 of them. I also have a PCB for the ALPS pot, if you want one of those, they sent me a whole slew of them.

I used a button made by Bulgin. Digikey should have some of them. It's where I got mine, and they just happened to have the model I wanted. It's the MPI002 model I used.

It cost me $25 to have the plate cut at a local place called Smucker Laser Cutting and Fabrication. I just e-mailed them my DXF, told them the material I wanted, and they e-mailed me back with the closest material they had and the quote. They do shipping.

I think at some point I am going to take it apart again and have it powder coated, do the milling I wanted, and use a different wire. The stranded wire was a pain to wrap around things, even tinned. It was especially painful to insert into the ALPS PCB. I would like to get some solid silver wire, but I can't seem to find any inside of the US that is insulated and come in red, white, and black.
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2/25/13 at 8:55am
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I had the PCBs made at BatchPCB. Here is the link to the actual PCB I made. I have a whole bunch made, so if you PM me your address I can mail you one for free, otherwise you will have to pay more to order them and probably get 10 of them. I also have a PCB for the ALPS pot, if you want one of those, they sent me a whole slew of them.

I used a button made by Bulgin. Digikey should have some of them. It's where I got mine, and they just happened to have the model I wanted. It's the MPI002 model I used.

It cost me $25 to have the plate cut at a local place called Smucker Laser Cutting and Fabrication. I just e-mailed them my DXF, told them the material I wanted, and they e-mailed me back with the closest material they had and the quote. They do shipping.
Awesome! Very helpful! Thanks man!

Couple more quick questions: What voltage regulator did you use on your power switch relay board? 7805? And is that a 2N222A you used for switching the 5V relay?
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2/25/13 at 9:10am
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See http://timramich.com/on_off_circuit/ for the schematic and parts list. You could probably use a 7805 if you wanted, but I chose to use something more efficient because it's always plugged in. It totally went over my head, but you would need a PIC chip. I bought a pack of 20, so you could order from me and I could send you the whole bundle of PCBs and the chip. The PIC chip isn't something I would send you for free, however.
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2/25/13 at 10:03am
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See http://timramich.com/on_off_circuit/ for the schematic and parts list. You could probably use a 7805 if you wanted, but I chose to use something more efficient because it's always plugged in. It totally went over my head, but you would need a PIC chip. I bought a pack of 20, so you could order from me and I could send you the whole bundle of PCBs and the chip. The PIC chip isn't something I would send you for free, however.
No worries man, I actually have been developing with PICs for years now, so the coding is no issue. The rest of the circuit is pretty standard I was just curious what routes you went component wise. There is always more than one way to skin a cat as they say wink.gif I am actually working on something a bit different so I dont think your boards will help me, but thank you for the offer and all the info!
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2/25/13 at 10:38am
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Feel free to share here what you're working on if you like.
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