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8/8/12 at 4:00am
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8/8/12 at 4:47am
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VLC is playing my WMA files on every windows machine I own and every DLNA server is able to stream to WMP on all of my windows machines so I am certain there is no DRM on the files, I rip using DBpoweramp and the Zune software simply adds the files to it's database, it does not edit the files.
Please bare in mind that DRM is a per-machine basis. So other media players might still support those files if they had DRM due to the machine license (plus likely using the same MS codecs).
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This is what I read on the vlc forum:

Yes, but if you bothered to check the link I posted you'd see that's only applicable for version 1.0.2 and below:
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Native playback supported by VLC 1.0.3 and later. Previous versions could use Windows DMO codecs on 32-bit x86 platforms and allow WMV-3/WMA-3 decoding. This feature was never tested on Intel-based Macs.
VLC is now on something like version 2.0.3. Thus the forum information is well out of date and thus VLC should have native WMA playback on OS X.
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Ahh you're running lossless WMA's rather than the more traditional lossy codecs. I wish you'd said that from the start. Yes, VLC does not support that - and nor do many other 3rd party media players / codec packs from what I've read.
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post #13 of 23
8/8/12 at 5:26am
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Please bare in mind that DRM is a per-machine basis. So other media players might still support those files if they had DRM due to the machine license (plus likely using the same MS codecs).
Yes, but if you bothered to check the link I posted you'd see that's only applicable for version 1.0.2 and below:
VLC is now on something like version 2.0.3. Thus the forum information is well out of date and thus VLC should have native WMA playback on OS X.
Ahh you're running lossless WMA's rather than the more traditional lossy codecs. I wish you'd said that from the start. Yes, VLC does not support that - and nor do many other 3rd party media players / codec packs from what I've read.

Thanks but I did say that in my first post that the WMA files that I was trying to play are lossless.
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post #14 of 23
8/8/12 at 5:39am
Prime example as to why i keep everything at 320kbps MP3 format.
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8/8/12 at 6:25am
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Thanks but I did say that in my first post that the WMA files that I was trying to play are lossless.
So you did. My apologies redface.gif
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Prime example as to why i keep everything at 320kbps MP3 format.
Surely FLAC would be better. Not just in terms of audio quality but also because it's not patent encumbered tongue.gif
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8/8/12 at 2:28pm
Lossless is only useful for archive purposes, and / or if you actually have the equipment to utilize it. Most people, to be perfectly honest...can't utilize it.

I consider myself to be a "budget audiophile". I can hear the difference between flac and mp3 (320k CBR). However the difference is so negligible, and only SOME songs I can tell, its just not worth it to me. Plus my car can't play flac / wma anyway, it only plays lossy codecs (mp3 and lossy wma). Easier to just copy / pasta 32GB worth of music, rather than re encode it all down.
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8/9/12 at 12:22am
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Lossless is only useful for archive purposes, and / or if you actually have the equipment to utilize it. Most people, to be perfectly honest...can't utilize it.
I do have the equipment and I DJ / produce too. So lossless makes a lot of sense for me. But I do see your point
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I consider myself to be a "budget audiophile". I can hear the difference between flac and mp3 (320k CBR). However the difference is so negligible, and only SOME songs I can tell, its just not worth it to me. Plus my car can't play flac / wma anyway, it only plays lossy codecs (mp3 and lossy wma).
Yeah, but even so, MPEG2 layer III is one of the worst lossy audio compression algorithms still in wide spread use frown.gif
I was looking to migrate all of my music to AAC at one point but found out that XBMC had a weird bug where it would take ages to index AAC files - which was a real deal breaker frown.gif
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Easier to just copy / pasta 32GB worth of music, rather than re encode it all down.
To be honest, if it's just 32GB then I'd be tempted to have multiple copies of some albums - eg a FLAC and MP3 version for albums that do show off the defects within MP3s
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8/9/12 at 3:20pm
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Lossless is only useful for archive purposes, and / or if you actually have the equipment to utilize it. Most people, to be perfectly honest...can't utilize it.
I do have the equipment and I DJ / produce too. So lossless makes a lot of sense for me. But I do see your point
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I consider myself to be a "budget audiophile". I can hear the difference between flac and mp3 (320k CBR). However the difference is so negligible, and only SOME songs I can tell, its just not worth it to me. Plus my car can't play flac / wma anyway, it only plays lossy codecs (mp3 and lossy wma).
Yeah, but even so, MPEG2 layer III is one of the worst lossy audio compression algorithms still in wide spread use frown.gif
I was looking to migrate all of my music to AAC at one point but found out that XBMC had a weird bug where it would take ages to index AAC files - which was a real deal breaker frown.gif
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Easier to just copy / pasta 32GB worth of music, rather than re encode it all down.
To be honest, if it's just 32GB then I'd be tempted to have multiple copies of some albums - eg a FLAC and MP3 version for albums that do show off the defects within MP3s

My entire collection is actually closer to 100-150GB or so (I'd have to check). My CAR can only use 32GB. And that's all in lossy mp3 format (most of it is high bitrate though). I don't mind, I don't have equipment to FULLY utilize flac anyway. I can hear very slight differences between flac and mp3 (320k CBR), but not enough to warrant 10x the space usage, since I'm already hurting for storage on my server as is.
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8/10/12 at 12:52am
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My entire collection is actually closer to 100-150GB or so (I'd have to check). My CAR can only use 32GB. And that's all in lossy mp3 format (most of it is high bitrate though). I don't mind, I don't have equipment to FULLY utilize flac anyway. I can hear very slight differences between flac and mp3 (320k CBR), but not enough to warrant 10x the space usage, since I'm already hurting for storage on my server as is.

To be honest I was only talking about having a small subset in dual formats rather than an entire music catalogue. But if you're already hunting for space then I can understand that even that might be too much.

I don't really watch a huge amount of TV and own even fewer DVDs. I'm also not massively bothered about watching things in standard def (though I'd prefer HD if available), but audio is definitely my soft spot - and the very reason why I initially built a file server. So please excuse me if I've come across a bit pushy here - I am very much biased redface.gif
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8/10/12 at 3:08am
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Prime example as to why i keep everything at 320kbps MP3 format.

Yeah well, If I could I might as well have. but it has caused far too many problems.

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Lossless is only useful for archive purposes, and / or if you actually have the equipment to utilize it. Most people, to be perfectly honest...can't utilize it.
I consider myself to be a "budget audiophile". I can hear the difference between flac and mp3 (320k CBR). However the difference is so negligible, and only SOME songs I can tell, its just not worth it to me. Plus my car can't play flac / wma anyway, it only plays lossy codecs (mp3 and lossy wma). Easier to just copy / pasta 32GB worth of music, rather than re encode it all down.

This is true, but as I said there was no reason for me not to before hand as I could never see myself getting a Mac and space isn't really an issue. However moving over and converting isn't really feasable as my collection is over 200gb.

I would go ahead and convert the Lossless files to MP3 but is there anyway to do this so that all the WMA files are converted and placed in their original folders rather than me hunting for every single lossless album I have and converting manually?
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