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I have an 6970 (AMD) and a x4 970 at 3.5 and sometimes at 3.8. It bottlenecks less at 3.8 than at 3.5 but u can still notice it. Since the 580 and 670 are both better cards I will have to say yes it will.

Pretty much this, I have the same situation, I'm trying to get to around 3800 from 3500, will I notice it you think it's worth it?
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Im going to overclock it as far as possible. I hope i can reach 4ghz or even more. If i reach 4GHz should i buy the gtx 670? Though i dont know what will the 660 Ti be like
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Pretty much this, I have the same situation, I'm trying to get to around 3800 from 3500, will I notice it you think it's worth it?

I just switched back from 3.8 to 3.5 since temps were getting out of hand as yes I do notice it when gaming. Normally my fps would be a steady 59 in BF3 (FPS limiter) but when having the CPU at 3.5 it certainly lets the FPS drop more often. So if you have the headroom try to get as high as possible. smile.gif
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Im going to overclock it as far as possible. I hope i can reach 4ghz or even more. If i reach 4GHz should i buy the gtx 670? Though i dont know what will the 660 Ti be like

I have a 955 @ 4.2ghz and I feel confident getting a 670 without switching over to a i5-k processor. I think I would be in the same boat as you, however your VRMs. I don't know how they will perform. Look up your board here http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboard-vrm-information-list/0_100
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OK I looked up your mobo ASRock M3A770DE and you are in the same boat as I am. AM3 only, only up to X6 Thuban support.

Try to crank it up, but keep your temps under 65-70c. Anything over that watch out.

Since your 945 is multi locked, it's going to be more trouble to OC it. Search on this site, there are excellent Phenom 2 OC guides. But personally I would say you'd be lucky to get the FSB up to 350 x 15 for a 3750 OC. If you get 4ghz out of that chip I would be amazed.

Do you have a Microcenter anywhere near you? They sell the 965 BE with a motherboard for $89. Sell the mobo on ebay, or keep it and sell yours? It's $110 at Tiger, that is a hard sell. Anything above 80ish and I would consider doing a new build with a FX8120 or an intel setup.

What games do you play? This also matters. If you're a hardcore BF3 guy then you need a big card (670) and a beefy cpu (8120+ or IB)
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I just switched back from 3.8 to 3.5 since temps were getting out of hand as yes I do notice it when gaming. Normally my fps would be a steady 59 in BF3 (FPS limiter) but when having the CPU at 3.5 it certainly lets the FPS drop more often. So if you have the headroom try to get as high as possible. smile.gif

I'm trying but haven't really had any luck lol....
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Do you have a Microcenter anywhere near you? They sell the 965 BE with a motherboard for $89. Sell the mobo on ebay, or keep it and sell yours? It's $110 at Tiger, that is a hard sell. Anything above 80ish and I would consider doing a new build with a FX8120 or an intel setup.
What games do you play? This also matters. If you're a hardcore BF3 guy then you need a big card (670) and a beefy cpu (8120+ or IB)

No, i dont have a microcenter near me. If i cant reach 4GHz, should i buy a new cpu? Maybe 980 BE or 1100t? Or a new intel CPU + a new mobo?

And yes, i am a gamer. Im not such a hardcore BF3 guy but i would like to try the game. Im playing DOTA2, The Witcher 2... in the future i would like to play GTA V, AC3, Crysis 3 etc.
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Do you have a Microcenter anywhere near you? They sell the 965 BE with a motherboard for $89. Sell the mobo on ebay, or keep it and sell yours? It's $110 at Tiger, that is a hard sell. Anything above 80ish and I would consider doing a new build with a FX8120 or an intel setup.
What games do you play? This also matters. If you're a hardcore BF3 guy then you need a big card (670) and a beefy cpu (8120+ or IB)

No, i dont have a microcenter near me. If i cant reach 4GHz, should i buy a new cpu? Maybe 980 BE or 1100t? Or a new intel CPU + a new mobo?

And yes, i am a gamer. Im not such a hardcore BF3 guy but i would like to try the game. Im playing DOTA2, The Witcher 2... in the future i would like to play GTA V, AC3, Crysis 3 etc.

No, not worth purchasing another Phenom II even if it is unlocked and a binned better. At the core of it the IPC is still the same and you're only going to gain at max 500mhz which frankly is not going to be any better.

If you can find local discounts on i5-2400 or i5-2500k's (depending on the price, I've seen the i5-2400 go for $120 @ microcenter & Fry's electronics) which is a freaking steal.

I would get those since you're on this kind of tighter budget. They would plug well into an 1155 board. That being said...

the lowest i5-####K unlocked processor would be the best P/P if you can save for it. My philosophy of money if you work at all is yes you can save for it. If you claim $300 is too much for a CPU/MOBO and you can't get it then either you have abnormal circumstances in your life or your standard of living is too high or your budgeting skills are very bad.

So all in all?

TL;DR
Phenom II no.
Old i5-2400 or i5-2500k YES.
i5-3570k? YESZ!
As a college graduate who is actually learning to manage money wisely for the first time I urge you to do it well.
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The 670 is a good choice regardless. The SMART thing to do would to try it out for yourself with what you currently have. Remember that the most significant component in gaming is the GPU! You will find that even if you cannot manage a great overclock, you will still be able to play all those games without any problems.

If you find that you are not happy with the framerates, Piledriver will soon be released and will alleviate any bottleneck you may have. Bulldozers are pretty cheap also and will cost you almost $100 less than a comparable i5 cpu/mobo. And trust me, you will NEVER notice a difference between either platform in gaming.
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If you find that you are not happy with the framerates, Piledriver will soon be released and will alleviate any bottleneck you may have.

What is Piledriver?
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