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8/6/12 at 8:48pm
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You guys need to just sit back and wait.
I want to see single threaded performance, I want to see power consumption, I want to see price and I want to see what they overclock too.
This is just an ES.


I agree with everything you just said.
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8/6/12 at 8:52pm
I wonder how old the Engineering chip is it's self that might be a factor.
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8/6/12 at 9:10pm
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You guys need to just sit back and wait.
I want to see single threaded performance, I want to see power consumption, I want to see price and I want to see what they overclock too.
This is just an ES.
AMD just needs to offer a respectable alternative to what is on the shelves.
People need to keep in perspective how little money AMD is operating on.

How is it exciting that AMD has caught up to a chip released late 2008?

My apologies that I don't buy claims of 6.0 GHZ base clocks for PD, there must be something wrong with my logic. rolleyes.gif
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8/6/12 at 9:11pm
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I wonder why he didn't run CB at 4.85, I want to see that score.
@Brutuz, I can almost guarantee you that PD won't do 5.5 GHZ stable on air.
I bet it's closer to 4.8 - 5.0 24/7 stable on air. Not being pessimistic, but rather realistic.


The other guy who posted took it a bit too far, but i'd like to point out that high end air already gets bulldozer to 4.8-5. So i expect to break 5ghz. One would hope they made refinements to the 32nm process, as well as the addition of Resonant clock mesh, which can be used to decrease power consumption or increase overclock potential.

i expect to see max stable overclocks on air of 5.5ghz, this is all speculation of course, but not done blindly.
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8/6/12 at 9:24pm
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How is it exciting that AMD has caught up to a chip released late 2008?
My apologies that I don't buy claims of 6.0 GHZ base clocks for PD, there must be something wrong with my logic. rolleyes.gif
No one said AMD only competing with Sandy bridge just recently isn't sad.

But AMD is improving and thus improving all other forms of competition. I'm not an AMD fan, I've owned more Intel chips that I have AMD. Up until recent personal reasons I preferred buying Intel. If there was a third or fourth or fifth competitor that would be fantastic.

You are honestly critiquing a free sandwich.
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8/6/12 at 9:39pm
Well, taking into account we don't have solid numbers for the higher end chips, I'm pretty hopeful for those to be decent (not that his one isn't). I don't understand some of the comments here, acting as if someone states that PD is looking ok, it is taken as a chip of Intels is somehow inferior. It's two different companies, with different processes. No matter how much we feel BD failed, I think we can all agree that we want to see improvements with Vishera chips. thumb.gif
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8/6/12 at 9:42pm
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No one said AMD only competing with Sandy bridge just recently isn't sad.
But AMD is improving and thus improving all other forms of competition. I'm not an AMD fan, I've owned more Intel chips that I have AMD. Up until recent personal reasons I preferred buying Intel. If there was a third or fourth or fifth competitor that would be fantastic.
You are honestly critiquing a free sandwich.

But that's the thing, they're not even competing with Sandy Bridge just yet. That's what makes this even sadder.

I know people are making those claims, but that's all they are, CLAIMS. That's the problem with these type of threads, someone makes that claim, and everybody believes it, and end up disappointed when the actual chip is released below the "expectations".

I would love to see AMD be more competitive, as I have more AMD rigs than I do Intel, but I can't blindly praise them when there is nothing to praise.

You can see me as the bad guy or whatever, but not once have I made false statements. Statements that AMD fans don't want to hear, that's a different story. Maybe you should blame AMD for putting out chips at their given performance levels compared to their competition. If they outperformed Intel I'd be the first one to praise them wholeheartedly.

Catching up to Nehalem is nothing to get excited about, I've had that kind of performance for 2 1/2 years now. ( Yes I know, PD will clock higher, I sure hope so considering it's on 32nm and released in late 2012. )
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8/6/12 at 9:43pm
The way I see it, AMD is the only entity standing between us and $500 2500k's. Even if intel afficionados can't find it in them to applaud AMD's decent, if tardy performance, they should at least bear in mind that AMD, by existing, saves them money. This is why I'm always sad when I see people hate on AMD. It's like rooting AGAINST the underdog... who does that?

Anyways, 75% of what makes me check up on OCN every hour has been the impending release of some sorts of Vishera benchmarks so good find OP! thumb.gif
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8/6/12 at 9:50pm
I honestly can't even keep up with all of AMD's ridiculous ES benchmarks, so trying to figure out if these PD ESs are on par with current or last generation Intel is a headache. If it can match the 2500K or 2600K in real world benchmarks and it's priced at ~$200, it will be a decent chip and I will probably snag one if I need the extra CPU power.
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8/6/12 at 10:15pm
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Sigh, it's taken AMD almost 2 years to get to a point where they are perhaps *almost* as good as SB in this one benchmark.
Maybe exciting for some, but to me it's just kind of sad.

Context. It's taken AMD 2 years to get to a point where they are perhaps almost as good as SB in this one benchmark with one-tenth the R&D budget.

(This, of course, assumes that this chip is, in fact, a legit E.S.)
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