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2 module PD beats a true quad core llano on cinebench, both single and mutli threaded... wink.gif
sorry I meant 2M/4T(2 module/4T are not true Quad cores), in the past(BD) a 4M/8T was not able to beat a hexacore Phenom(using cine bench as benchmark) but now if a 2M/4T PD is beating Quad core Llano(enhanced Phenom cores without L3 cache) this means a 4M/8T could also beat a 32nm Octa core Phenom which is what everybody wanted instead of BD...
4M/8T PD will beat the socks off a hexa core phenom(on cinebench, using recent PD benchmarks)

This is not how Bulldozer works, read up about the modules in the cores before you post the same incorrect information twice.
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pretty much. the windows scheduler update just made BD 8 cores read like an i7 (4C/8T) when the thing has (and you can argue till the cows come home about it not being "full cores" or whatever) 8 real, physical cores in it. a pretty lame fix as it did pretty much nothing for performance.


With the old FP instruction sets, the modular design does fall behind. Consider all the new instruction sets supported and the performance advantage they can provide in many usage scenarios and the performance increase is clear.
IIRC Windows treats it like a 4C/8T with the hotfix so that it uses only one integer unit per module in ≤4 threaded workloads, which sometimes can make a noticeable difference.

Correct. It was changed to always utilize one thread on every module before putting a second thread onto a module. The update didn't really help performance much(at least in benchmarks) so I'd imagine windows was usually doing that before anyways.

There is a decent performance hit when running two threads on one module. About 10% by this test.

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Thread Starter 
AMD Engineering Sample, ZD358246W6K54_41/35/20_2/8 (ES)

553394_17375994941585hqsq5.jpg


Piledriver
- FX-6300 3.5GHz base/4.1GHz turbo, 95W

Bulldozer
- FX-6100 3.3GHz base/3.9GHz turbo, 95W
- FX-6200 3.8GHz base/4.1GHz turbo, 125W


No benchmarks yet.
post #294 of 636
95 Watt 6 core I'm all over that =) I have a 6100 already but want to use my awesome cooler which isn't so awesome but it's easy to install.
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I'm just hoping AMD can make a CPU that makes it worth upgrading my X4 955@4ghz. Just once I'd like to upgrade in the same socket! And Intel used to run so much cooler. I'd like to see a reasonably priced 95W X6 or X8 that can beat a PII X4 or X6 by a margin that would make it worth while for me to spend any money. 10% @ $300 is not the answer for me. I've been looking at PII X6's and for the price is just about isn't worth it.

People complain at the Intel prices but they do hold the crown. Honestly I'd like to see an all out war like back in the old days when it seemed like every 6 months a new chip came out that was worth the upgrade if you could afford it. And we all love this unlocked multiplier market, at lease we got one thing we begged for year after year.
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Nice ... JOB?

What? It's true. If his math is correct PD is on par with a 2600k.
Only took...a ...while...and still competing with a generation behind.

Not impressive by the least, especially when these are priced competitively on performance as opposed to pricing.
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Only took...a ...while...and still competing with a generation behind.
Not impressive by the least, especially when these are priced competitively on performance as opposed to pricing.

Those chicks haven't hatched yet. wink.gif
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There are no AMD CPUs with 2 cores and 4 threads... CPU-Z (and other programs) are just reporting it wrong.

Nah, they are getting it perfectly right. I'm counting cores by FPU's as what I do is mostly putting floating point loads on CPU (relatively FFT heavy simulations of wave propagation in solids). I'm still on opinion that calling a module two cores is marketing. Although that horse has been beaten already on multiple occasions and I guess its best to just agree to disagree on this matter wink.gif
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Cannot wait to get one of these. cheers.gif Was seriously starting to think i would have to go to the darkside. Shame on me! rolleyes.gif
    
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Only took...a ...while...and still competing with a generation behind.
Not impressive by the least, especially when these are priced competitively on performance as opposed to pricing.


If it is equal to SB, i don't see what the issue is. IVB is what, on average a 6-8% improvement on SB in terms of performance? I'll buy PD based on that, especially given the large overclocking headroom they usually have. In terms of pricing, I hope they do the same thing Intel did (I can't imagine that they wouldn't). After Intel priced down SB, the IVB replacements were about 30 dollars more. An 83xx PD between 170-220 is worth it from what I have seen so far.
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