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Can't wait to grab one of these bad boys.
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Watching AMD performance charts is like watching a Forever Alone try to get out of the friend zone.
EMBARASSING
    
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Can't believe we have people with Ivy Bridges freaking out when the results show that PD only around 10% faster...
Its still 50%+ slower in IPC.

It's sad someone with an IB would freak out actually. This isn't like your favorite sports team losing, it's a dang processor.
post #314 of 636
I still don't understand people saying they can't wait to get one.

Seriously, I am not seeing a difference or barely a difference between BD and PD in multi or single-threaded? Am I just missing something?

Someone want to chime in here?

BD: 5.99




PD: 5.73
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Can't believe we have people with Ivy Bridges freaking out when the results show that PD only around 10% faster...
Its still 50%+ slower in IPC.
What about IPS? That's more important than IPC in a lot of situations anyways and is better at showing overall processor speed.
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It depends on what you're trying to compare. If you want to compare how fast a CPU is compared to another including clock frequency differences then IPS describes that. It's useful if you want to compare how fast CPU X versus CPU Y is as a finished product and is what we do when we benchmark. You can see this quite literally, especially in old school benchmarks, where the results are related in xIPS such as MIPS. If instead you want to compare two CPUs excluding clock frequency then IPC describes that. It's useful when you want to compare how much a given architecture can manage compared to another. This is what you want to do if you're debating architectural improvements themselves like we're doing here. If frequency of the final product increased by 50% it isn't simply enough to be happy with the extra performance. We'd want to know where it came from, and that requires talking about IPC instead of just overall throughput. We're not just trying to compare the final package.
post #317 of 636
PD could still be faster than what this website shows it to be. It's still very early to talk about PD.
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But an antitrust suit wouldn't make a competitor appear out of thin air. I wonder would would happen if AMD kicked the bucket... Would the government bail it out? I guess it depends on the election to some extent but it's probably a question that won't have to be asked just yet.

Out of thin air, it can. 1984, The United States vs. AT&T. The U.S. Department of Justice forced it to split into seven independent companies. "Ma' Bell" was no more.
    
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We are talking about AMD.

They much less money to play with and research than Intel. It's a miracle we still see some competition in the x86-64 segment.

Lookin at price-performance, this chip could be the best4buck in the last years. If it gets the price point under the 2500K, and the performance shown in this thread, i think is a WIN for AMD.
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I still don't understand people saying they can't wait to get one.
Seriously, I am not seeing a difference or barely a difference between BD and PD in multi or single-threaded? Am I just missing something?
Someone want to chime in here?
BD: 5.99

PD: 5.73

You are comparing a engineering sample based on the 8300, the slowest PD 8-Core, to a 8150, the fastest BD 8-Core. At best, the 8300 is meant to replace the 8120 (CB 5.04)/8120.
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