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Originally Posted by HAVO View Post

dont "deduce" it, use my result i posted man

there you have a 8120@ 3.32ghz (5.34 points)
now i dare you to do the same math you did all over again biggrin.gifthumb.gif

No, thanks. thumb.gif On a serious note, I'm very well aware of all kinds of possibilities, potentials, variables, differences, etc. between all systems, test setups, chips, etc. My deductions were just for fun. Even if you take away (or add) a few tenths of a point to any of the values I came up with, it doesn't matter. It's all general and not meant at all to represent accuracy. I do, however, still believe that clocked at 5GHz, Vishera will be a successor to Phenom II, finally, but will it be any good for gaming? Realistically, prolly not.
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Originally Posted by nicfolder View Post

they already have delivered this 15% performance encrease, heck and that PD Module was lacking the L3 cache the BD Module was test against, Trinity delivers upto 15% performance encrease over BD even if it lacks the L3 Cache, now with the L3 cache we may even see 20% performance encrease... thumb.gif
Toms Hardware Review..."Piledriver clearly completes our workload much faster, yielding a 15% improvement, per clock cycle, over Bulldozer."
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-a6-5400k,3224-2.html
guys keep in mind this is a ES Chip, one can expect 20% performance encrease(thanks to L3 and other tweaks) on Retail Vishera... wink.gif

tongue.gif We'll see soon enough.
post #372 of 636
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Originally Posted by nicfolder View Post

Again this is an ES Chip, Only if we had a retail PD cpu we could compare to BD......hey guess what? we already do... and clock vs clock Trinity PD is beating BD by a good 15% and that´s lacking the L3 Cache... one can expect a 20% performance boost on retail vishera


Quoted for future reference. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by MLSCrow View Post

tongue.gif We'll see soon enough.
no need to wait, we can already see how a retail PileDriver CPU perform http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-a6-5400k,3224-2.html
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TBH i don't buy a cpu to beat another cpu from another manufacturer, i buy based on price and the functions i require for it to perform. For my needs the FX8120 has been anything but a flop it has more than quadrupled my work output if not more. Speculation speculation speculation, we can all um and er over whether Piledriver will be 10%15%or even 20% better but until we have a real cpu tested within a real PC we just don't know. Im not trying to dampen anyones thirst for a debate just voicing my opinion.

I think Piledriver will definitely offer a worthy performance increase over BD , how much ? Who knows ? But if it is the case then im interested for sure. Im gonna wait until they are out and have been throughly tested by a trustworthy source. biggrin.gif
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Wow how polite, and no, im not dumb but thanks for the sentiment. I am merely saying that until a finished product is available, all the talk of whether its going to be 10%15% or 20% is speculation regardless of tested engineering samples. Sure the results show potential but until its finished it is just speculation.

I agree with you there about it being speculation, I am sure this should be in the rumor section. Who knows this could be a troll about PD.
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all the talk of whether its going to be 10%15% or 20% is speculation regardless of tested engineering samples. Sure the results show potential but until its finished it is just speculation.
whats there to speculate? the Trinity based PD on the bench marks are production type CPUs no ES..! and this Retail PD shows a 15% encrease in performance clock vs clock to BD while lacking L3 Cache, whats there to speculate? its Retail Trinity no ES Chip, if you cant see that then you are beyond hope
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I agree with you there about it being speculation, I am sure this should be in the rumor section. Who knows this could be a troll about PD.

Well PD has already been benched from Desktop Trinity. So I could see 12-15%+ improvement. There are also thoughts that the Trinity PD is an early revision and Vishera will be even more improved on it, but that is speculation. Of all the things discussed about Vishera, I am definitely more confident that the 15% IPC will happen than I am that it will keep its high overclock ability and have much improved power savings at higher clocks.
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again, Trinity is Retail quality, not ES quality, no speculation at all when a retail Trinity PileDriver cores (lacking L3 Cache) beats a retail BD by 15%, by adding the L3 the performance can only increase rolleyes.gif

here again...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-a6-5400k,3224-2.html

Retail Trinity...

RetailTrinity.jpg
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Originally Posted by fivestring View Post

I'm proud of AMD. They may still be behind but price will be the deciding factor here. Plus OCing gthese thing will be awesome!
I'm tired of this 960T anyways lol

I just got mine, and I am, too! Can't wait for PD to get into my system. That way I can sell my mobo, two Phenom processors, the sniper series ram (8GB), 430W PSU. I will trade those in for a Sabertooth 990FX R2.0, 600W PSU, 16GB Samsung WondeRam, PD CPU!
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Originally Posted by black96ws6 View Post

I still don't understand people saying they can't wait to get one.
Seriously, I am not seeing a difference or barely a difference between BD and PD in multi or single-threaded? Am I just missing something?
Someone want to chime in here?
BD: 5.99

PD: 5.73

PD is at 3.3 and BD is turboing.
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Originally Posted by HAVO View Post


thats a quick run of my 8120 @3.32ghz..
so yea, there is an improvement thumb.gif

Thank you smile.gif Shows about 7% increase in IPC in CB, which isn't bad I suppose. Hopefully the extra speed increases will make up the rest of the 10-15%. Now, if PD inherited Tinity's better power consumption and heat output, which is likely, then nice. thumb.gif
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