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I'm new to the server thing, and very new to rackmount stuff. However, it seems like it would be quite a bit cheaper for me to buy a used rack-mount server as opposed to trying to build one in a standard desktop case, etc. This also allows me to run a rack-mount switch, etc....Not only cleaning everything up but also looking totally cool in the process(I love hardware porn).


Anyways, I need a server to run and record the IP cameras I'm installing at my house. I'll be starting off with 4 cameras, but would like room to expand down the line. It also wouldn't hurt to have extra power in case I want to use the server for additional things as well.


Some of the criteria I'd like to meet:

Processor(s): 4 cores would be sufficient for a while, but I'm thinking that 6 or 8 would be nice to have. 2.5-2.8ish gHz? It takes a lot of resources to process and save the data from multiple HD cameras.

Memory: At least 4GB(with room to grow). 8GB would be better. I plan on running Ubuntu Server and ZoneMinder to control the cameras, plus some software to monitor the server and my network, plus anything else.

Storage:Don't have to get too crazy here. I'd like to run the OS and software on one smaller HDD, and then store video on a set of larger capacity drives in a RAID configuration. 6 slots total(for future expansion room again)?

Power:Redundancy would be nice, but not necessary.



I've found a few on E-bay that seem right up my alley. Anything to look for or stay away from? The IBM Xeon stuff looks like it's right up my alley.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-X3650-2U-SERVER-2x-QC-X5355-2-66GHZ-4GB-1x-146GB-SERVERAID-8K-L-2x-PSU-/310418726511?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&hash=item484665de6f#ht_2668wt_952

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-X3650-2U-SERVER-2x-QC-X5355-2-66GHZ-4GB-1x-73GB-SERVERAID-8K-2x-PSU-/170888964798?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&hash=item27c9c6aabe#ht_2546wt_952

Any help is appreciated.
post #2 of 11
i grabbed a Dell 2950 off ebay cheap (Dual quad core, 16GB ram. and it can take SAS or SATA so you wont have to pay stupid money for drives.

cant really compare prices as the US used server market is way cheaper than UK and seems to be newer gear sometimes too
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Any particular reason why it has to be a rack server? do you plan on more than 1 server? because, if you were to build a desktop server, you can build a server in the specs you want easily for well under $500. Besides, it is fun to build new rigs right?
   
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post #4 of 11
Thread Starter 
It doesn't have to be a rack server. I just saw a few selling on ebay for $200 ish. Seemed like a great bang for the buck.

What would be a good route to go in an ATX case?
post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by Norse View Post

i grabbed a Dell 2950 off ebay cheap (Dual quad core, 16GB ram. and it can take SAS or SATA so you wont have to pay stupid money for drives.
cant really compare prices as the US used server market is way cheaper than UK and seems to be newer gear sometimes too

I see a lot of good deals on Dell and HP servers. I never liked Dell desktops, and I assumed their servers were probably in the same league.
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by XxbulaxX View Post

What would be a good route to go in an ATX case?

Cheap, as cheap as you can find one. it doesn't have to be fancy at all. would you want it full atx or micro?

Micro-ATX case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147112

ATX mid-tower case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811121001

these are what I would go with if I were to build a server and didn't have a case.

z68 boards aren't too much, you can hot-swap and RAID with those, plus you would have integrated graphics.
so then you can go i5, i7 if you need the hyper-threading.

and that is essentially it. hope this helps.
   
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post #7 of 11
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Sorry, I worded that wrong. I have a bunch of ATX cases around. Meant what components would one suggest when building a server inside an ATX case(mobo, etc)...Although the second part of your post covered that.

I'm going to keep looking around and reading threads in this subforum....Tons of great information.
post #8 of 11
alright, glad I could help, if I did even.
   
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Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB  Patriot Pyro 60GB SSD Asus slim external DVD RW 
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Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB  Patriot Pyro 60GB SSD Asus slim external DVD RW 
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Antec Kuhler h2o 620 Cougar 12CM PWM fan Cooler Master sickleflow green LED 120mm fan cougar 12CM fan 
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Linux Mint 13 Mate x64 HP 2310m CHIMEI CMV 221D Logitech G110 gaming keyboard 
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PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK II 750w PSU Bitfenix Prodigy Razer Naga Epic Kenwood 5.1 surround sound system 
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AMD athlon x2 QL-65 Gateway MD2419u AMD Radeon hd 3200 Hyundai electronics 2GB DDR2 333 PC2-5300 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
G.Skill 2GB DDR2 333 PC2-5300 OCZ agility 3 90GB SATA III SSD integrated DVD RW stock 
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Linux mint 13 x64 integrated 15.6" monitor integrated backlit gateway md2419u shell 
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post #9 of 11
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Sure did, thanks.
post #10 of 11
Rack servers are generally not cheaper.

Source: Work just got another R810 smile.gif
    
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