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I will be mounting a pair of Aquacomputer Airplex Modularity Rads, 6 x 120mm fans (push/pull) which is 113.5mm thick all together, in the top of the case.

These rads are 404mm long and 146mm wide.

Beneath that will be an XL/ATX mobo. Which top cover will I need to enclose these rads and still clear the mobo? I've found no pics of the covers themselves and don't know whether it is just extra sides with the original top cover, or a separate unit that fits atop the case. Your specs say "Radiator Clearance Above the MB Tray: 59mm", so would the 64mm Tall Ventilated option be added to the 59mm or is that the total height above the mobo? If the heights are added to each other that would make the height above the mobo 123mm, which would be perfect for my 113.5mm thick rads with push/pull fans, I think. Or would the 85mm Tall Ventilated cover, which would make the clearance 144mm be even better?

I see the pics of the standard and flex bay hdd cages but don't know what the differences are. If, maybe, the only differences are esthetic or is there some functional difference?

I'll be adding 2 SSD mounting kits, for 4 SSD's and a caster kit. Since I'll be using at least a 1200 watt PSU I'll also need the optional PSU tray, but I also don't know the difference between the standard and reversed PSU tray.

If I have a choice, I'd like the darkest led's you have as I don't like bright lights on the front of my computers.

Could you put a kit such as this together for me to assemble? It will go to Eastern North Carolina and the 28445 ZIP code.

I e-mailed this to your company address 2 or 3 weeks ago and received no response so I thought you may see it here and respond.

I have one complaint about your site. All black computer cases are almost impossible to correctly picture. I have so many of these questions because I can't see what the individual parts look like apart and also assembled into an operating unit. Some pictures of assembled computers using white colored main parts and black optional components (or vice versa) would greatly enhance the understanding of how all of these parts go together and also function together.

The sooner you can answer my questions, the sooner I can send you my money.

I'm asking all of these questions now, because I was one click from ordering an M8 when something made me reread the specs, where I found that the M8 does not hold an XL/ATX motherboard.

Thank you for your help.

k1

 

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I will be mounting a pair of Aquacomputer Airplex Modularity Rads, 6 x 120mm fans (push/pull) which is 113.5mm thick all together, in the top of the case.
These rads are 404mm long and 146mm wide.
Beneath that will be an XL/ATX mobo. Which top cover will I need to enclose these rads and still clear the mobo? I've found no pics of the covers themselves and don't know whether it is just extra sides with the original top cover, or a separate unit that fits atop the case. Your specs say "Radiator Clearance Above the MB Tray: 59mm", so would the 64mm Tall Ventilated option be added to the 59mm or is that the total height above the mobo? If the heights are added to each other that would make the height above the mobo 123mm, which would be perfect for my 113.5mm thick rads with push/pull fans, I think. Or would the 85mm Tall Ventilated cover, which would make the clearance 144mm be even better?
I see the pics of the standard and flex bay hdd cages but don't know what the differences are. If, maybe, the only differences are esthetic or is there some functional difference?

You can't really add the dimensions that way because you still have the case frame to deal with - you would have 59mm below the frame and up to 85mm above it. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it won't fit, even with the 85mm top frown.gif Your combination works out to 88.5mm. Not to push it on you, but the T10 has 173mm of internal clearance above the mobo and there isn't a big price difference if you factor in the 85mm top on the M10- just a thought. There is a functional difference between the two HDD cages: The MAC-101 is designed to be mounted in the PSU side of the case while the MAC-102 is used in the Flex-Bays (5.25" bays). More information is available in the Owner's Manual.
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I'll be adding 2 SSD mounting kits, for 4 SSD's and a caster kit. Since I'll be using at least a 1200 watt PSU I'll also need the optional PSU tray, but I also don't know the difference between the standard and reversed PSU tray.
The PSU Support should match teh case type. If you order a reverse ATX layout, then you would order the reverse support.
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If I have a choice, I'd like the darkest led's you have as I don't like bright lights on the front of my computers.
Those are the only ones we have, but since they are standard anti-vandal style switches, you can change them out for whatever you want.
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Could you put a kit such as this together for me to assemble? It will go to Eastern North Carolina and the 28445 ZIP code.
I e-mailed this to your company address 2 or 3 weeks ago and received no response so I thought you may see it here and respond.
I have one complaint about your site. All black computer cases are almost impossible to correctly picture. I have so many of these questions because I can't see what the individual parts look like apart and also assembled into an operating unit. Some pictures of assembled computers using white colored main parts and black optional components (or vice versa) would greatly enhance the understanding of how all of these parts go together and also function together.

Sorry about the missed email redface.gif Sometimes I get slammed and it's hard to keep up with it. I agree it would be easier to see the parts using a black on white theme. Kevin and I really want to get a couple of videos together as well. It's just a manpower issue at the moment.
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The sooner you can answer my questions, the sooner I can send you my money.
I'm asking all of these questions now, because I was one click from ordering an M8 when something made me reread the specs, where I found that the M8 does not hold an XL/ATX motherboard.
Thank you for your help.
k1

 



Thanks smile.gif I'll shoot you a PM in a few minutes with the shipping costs.
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I really appreciate the fast response. Thank you!

 

Edit: I just looked at the M10 pics again. I still don't see any frame other than where the 2 side panels are placed. The load-bearing structural frame just doesn't show up at all, so I didn't even think to consider it. Pictures of the frames sans the panels would be very helpful along with the internal specs of the frames of all your cases. Pictures of black panels are inconsequential towards figuring out the internal layout of these cases so the customer can select the proper one for their specific needs.

My rads are 63.5mm thick, plus 120mm x 25mm fans on top and bottom equals approximately 113.5mm thick. Not 88mm.

There are hinges listed as accessories, but the pictures show them pre-mounted. Do they actually come with these kits or are they extra and the side panels are actually screwed on?

Is reverse ATX just the mobo panel flipped around 180 degrees, or is it like those Silverstone cases where all the expansion ports and input/output ports are at the top? This is a major feature that definitely needs a picture or two.

Does the ventilated top cover the rad mounts or replace them? Just wondering, since a solid cover is a listed option that would preclude any top mounted rads since the fan holes would be covered up.

Wow. I've just deleted the rest of this edit. There are so many questions I have that would more easily be answered with some proper pictures that I'm just going to wait until they're available.

Please e-mail me when you have some that are more visually descriptive.

Thanks again.

k1


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Okay, I bit the bullet and ordered the Magnum T10.

If you need to know exactly what's going into this build, then here it is:

 

MSI Big Bang XPower II (XL-ATX) & i7-3930K

Mushkin Redline 2133 x 4

One Pair - Aquacomputer Airplex Modularity Rad System 360mm up top - 113.5mm thick = 25mm fan + 63.5mm Radiator + 25mm fan

Swiftech MCP35X2 Pump w/Swiftech MCP35X2 Series Heat Sink

Aquacomputer Cuplex Kryos XT Series - .925 Silver Edition - Socket LGA 2011

IandH StealthRes Deluxe Tube Multi-Option 225 Reservoir

Danger Den 1/2" x 3/4" Dreamflex Tubing

Monsoon Matte Black Compressions

HP DVD/RW

LG BLuRay Writer

Just enough hdd's and ssd's to get it running. For now.

Extra parts later

 

That should be enough to determine if this T10 will be the right case for my components.

Thanks once again,

k1

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You should be fine with that combination. The T10 has 173mm of clearance from the top of the MB to the top of the case. Your rad/fan combination is only 113.5mm, so you'll have plenty of room.

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I could have swore that your cases came unassembled in a flat pack.

I checked the dimensions against my Corsair 800 DW, but didn't realize it would actually be so huge!

This T10 makes my 2 Cosairs look like cheap pieces of crap. I've never seen such a high-quality case. I never even knew such things existed.

I was supposed to have ordered the USB 3.0 panel but I managed to forget it. I ordered one the moment I saw what I had done.

I think I'm gonna have to order another pack of tubing. I have so much room I can now run a parallel loop like I always wanted.

With this high-powered dual pump, I can use a Y splitter and run one side to the cpu and chipset to one radiator, and the other side to the videocards and the 2nd radiator.

Then use another Y splitter to combine both radiator outlets back to the reservoir.

Thanks again for this excellent case. It's worth every penny.

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I've tried several e-mails, to no avail so I'll try here again.

I need an adaptor so I can use a 3.5" devices in 5.25" external bays. Card readers, fan controllers and what not.

Do you have anything like this?

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