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The VG278h uses PWM dimming at 360hz.
The VG278he I tested used PWM dimming at around the same rate. No eyestrain at 50% brightness but go lower and YMMV.
Every 120hz LED and almost every 60hz monitor uses PWM dimming. It's the easiest way to maintain colour temperature at different brightness levels. There are only a handful of non-PWM LED displays out there.
You may simply have issue with LED "white" backlights in general. This is certainly true for me. Even without PWM dimming I find LED backlights cause me issues. The typical LED backlight is actually blue with a yellow phosphorous coating to mimic white. A lot of blue still makes it through and this is what causes discomfort for many people.

Ahh the stress, i can stare at my current monitor all day and never need to rest my eyes, I grabbed it on clearance right before acer switched to led backlighting so i had no experiece when i bought the vg23ah which caused extreme amounts.
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I'll stick with my beautiful Benq XL2420T : )
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Why would you need the EDID?
I thought creating an inf just creates a monitor driver.
Anyways, here it is. Had to change the extention to txt.
My-Latest.txt 2k .txt file

Thanks, it's for using with the NVIDIA emulator hack.
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Ahh the stress, i can stare at my current monitor all day and never need to rest my eyes, I grabbed it on clearance right before acer switched to led backlighting so i had no experience when i bought the vg23ah which caused extreme amounts.

I was wrong, whybother is right.

VG278H has a 360hz PWM frequency @120hz with 140cdm/2 brightness, according to PRAD you should not see flicker. For comparison the Samsung S27A950D has a 180hz PWM frequency=flicker

http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-asus-vg278h-teil7.html#Backlight

VG278HE also uses PWM, it has a 432hz frequency @ 144hz with 144hz brightness (OSD Brightness 21)

http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-asus-vg278he-teil7.html#Backlight

PRAD's review is only up for subscribers right now, those w/o a paid membership will have to spend a few duckets to read it.

Input lag is 18ms @60hz on the VG278HE vs 3.3ms on the VG278H, so for those who will also be console gaming, the VG27H is superior

Input lag is 5ms on the VG278HE @144hz, and for some reason PRAD's reviewer only decided to post response time numbers from the Trace Free 100 setting, not 40 (he recommends using TF 40 @60hz) or 60 (recommend for 144hz). Pixel response time numbers are basically the same on both, just look at the VG278H review if you want to get an idea

http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-asus-vg278h-teil6.html#Bildaufbauzeit
Edited by MenacingTuba - 10/19/12 at 11:35pm
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Thanks, it's for using with the NVIDIA emulator hack.

Majnu, Can you explain what the hack is? What is it and what does it do?
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Majnu, Can you explain what the hack is? What is it and what does it do?

Sure. I've not had a chance to test the EDID yet as my motherboard is being RMA's through Asus atm.

But the file when used in conjunction with an EDID override allows a 3D monitor to work alongside a NVIDIA GPU. Therefore there is no need to buy/upgrade to a specific 3D Vision monitor and NVIDIA 3D Vision glasses to get 3D to work.
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I was wrong, whybother is right.
VG278H has a 360hz PWM frequency @120hz with 140cdm/2 brightness, according to PRAD you should not see flicker. For comparison the Samsung S27A950D has a 180hz PWM frequency=flicker
http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-asus-vg278h-teil7.html#Backlight
VG278HE also uses PWM, it has a 432hz frequency @ 144hz with 144hz brightness (OSD Brightness 21)
http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-asus-vg278he-teil7.html#Backlight
PRAD's review is only up for subscribers right now, those w/o a paid membership will have to spend a few duckets to read it.
Input lag is 18ms @60hz on the VG278HE vs 3.3ms on the VG278H, so for those who will also be console gaming, the VG27H is superior
Input lag is 5ms on the VG278HE @144hz, and for some reason PRAD's reviewer only decided to post response time numbers from the Trace Free 100 setting, not 40 (he recommends using TF 40 @60hz) or 60 (recommend for 144hz). Pixel response time numbers are basically the same on both, just look at the VG278H review if you want to get an idea
http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-asus-vg278h-teil6.html#Bildaufbauzeit

Thats the thing that worries me though , I don't notice the flicker even at lower settings, it just wears my eyes out to look at it. 12 hours no prob on ccfl cheap tn Acer monitor. But that one killed me , but I will likely try a higher frequency one just to find out if its pwn all together I have to avoid, if so I will have to see if it is LED all together I have to avoid. 20 years of gaming on crt displays at low refresh rates and no problems , and the new stuff that is supposed to help people kills me, haha.
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I am very interested in the VG278HE, but I have some questions about it.
I have a BenQ XL2420T running 1280x1024 @ 130Hz thanks to the CRU changer currently and I am considering an upgrade if the following is possible:

- Would I be able to run 144Hz at other resolutions apart from 1080p? (I checked the pdf manual and it did not appear to be the case, I typically try to run 4:3 resolutions/lower resolutions).

- Would an upgrade realistically be worth it at this point? 150Hz would be nice, but I am running a 7970 and I would want to run lower resolutions for max frames.
Edited by xcelerate - 11/10/12 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by MenacingTuba View Post

I was wrong, whybother is right.
VG278H has a 360hz PWM frequency @120hz with 140cdm/2 brightness, according to PRAD you should not see flicker. For comparison the Samsung S27A950D has a 180hz PWM frequency=flicker
http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-asus-vg278h-teil7.html#Backlight
VG278HE also uses PWM, it has a 432hz frequency @ 144hz with 144hz brightness (OSD Brightness 21)
http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-asus-vg278he-teil7.html#Backlight
PRAD's review is only up for subscribers right now, those w/o a paid membership will have to spend a few duckets to read it.
Input lag is 18ms @60hz on the VG278HE vs 3.3ms on the VG278H, so for those who will also be console gaming, the VG27H is superior
Input lag is 5ms on the VG278HE @144hz, and for some reason PRAD's reviewer only decided to post response time numbers from the Trace Free 100 setting, not 40 (he recommends using TF 40 @60hz) or 60 (recommend for 144hz). Pixel response time numbers are basically the same on both, just look at the VG278H review if you want to get an idea
http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-asus-vg278h-teil6.html#Bildaufbauzeit

Would you say the results PRAD has for the S27A950D are quite similar to the S23A700/750/950D? (15.9ms total)

While it isn't going to be an issue for most people, I firmly believe monitors should have less latency than refresh rate to avoid implications for all play styles. In which case 1000/120= 8.3ms frame. (6.9 for 144hz)

Of course there are ways to compensate for latency if needed.
Edited by Skylit - 11/11/12 at 5:36am
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so i was going with the s23a750d until i saw this one...
so with the asus, will i be able to achive around 144fps for ex.:
Bf3
settings on High
no AA and stuff (maybe 2xAA if i see a difference) actually i have no experience with the anti-allising stuff...
with a GTX 670 2gb
or
a 7970 3gb

also is 2gb enough for future games (bf4, gta v, modded skyrim..etc) or would i go with a 7970 and upgrade later in 2-3 years..?
what brand to go with the 7970? love the Matrix but its a little overpriced...
Edited by danye7x - 11/11/12 at 5:06pm
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