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I am just going to "think out loud" here, since most of my points have already been discussed.

Microsoft wants a combined "experience", and they are still doggedly pursuing a strong foothold in the mobile market. It's impractical to make a desktop style interface for a phone. It's much easier to make a phone interface work on a desktop, so that's the route they took. They want every device running their software to look, feel, and perform the same, and they want it all to seamlessly integrate. Metro on PC's is the easiest way to accomplish this. In my opinion, it's an attempt to gather the same type of following as Apple has with their line of products. An Apple feels like an Apple, and MS wants people to say the same about Windows, regardless of what hardware it's running on. Microsoft knows their customers won't willingly migrate to the new interface, which is why they are being so stubborn about killing workarounds. If no one uses it, no one raves to their friends about how nice it is that all their MS products work so well together.

Microsoft has a history of forcing "what's best for the consumer" on us, whether we agree or not. This is just the attempt that garnered the most backlash. I remember when the ribbon hit, I remember when they decided all drivers must be signed and approved by MS labs, I remember when they started the "Genuine Advantage" program, I remember when they decided to change the way DirectX handles sounds and rendered most sound cards obsolete for gaming purposes, I remember when they said DX 10 would be Windows Vista and up only. None of these ideas were considered popular, or even necessary, but MS pushed them at us anyway.

I know I am sounding really negative here, and that honestly isn't my intention. I tried Windows 8. I tried the Metro interface. While I personally didn't see any need for it, I didn't necessarily hate it either. I wouldn't mind using it if I had to, but I'd prefer not to. I would still be running the Win8 preview except for the fact that one little obscure program I run regularly does not work at all on Win8. I know I will eventually end up buying Windows 8. I'll stick with 7 until I have a legitimate reason to upgrade, and I definitely won't be paying full retail price for the big version like I did with Vista Ultimate.

TL:DR version: meh, it's MS being MS.
 
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post #122 of 527
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Originally Posted by Rubers View Post

MS intentionally making it harder for people to opt out of Metro isn't "nothing".
And also, "one click away" is one click too many". I certainly can't be bothered with it.

But you could be bothered to spend many hours getting your 2500K stable at 4.5GHz @1.29v? Which actually doesn't make that much of a difference at all in performance. All that overclocking will get you maybe another 5 FPS in games if you're lucky. Besides the quicker boot times make up for that time clicking once. Windows 7 did a cold boot in 45 seconds*. Windows 8 does it in 25-30 seconds* on my rig.

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They knew enough about "us" to become "damn billionaire businessmen" in the first place. Whether you like it or not I think W8 is going to be huge with the "average" user.

This.

There aren't relatively many people who use their (windows) computers for any more than web surfing, chat, media, games or document creation. All of which is right there in W8s start menu. I'd bet the same even applies to this very forum in fact, regardless of its enthusiast tone.

For those who feel they absolutely MUST use W7, all they have to do is keep on using W7.
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For all of those people who want to go directly to the desktop after boot and want a start menu back, use Start8. Its a tool by stardock that allows you to boot directly to the desktop and also brings the start menu back by making the windows 8 metro menu smaller and adding a start button to the desktop. Works nicely in RTM as well for any who have it.

http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/
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Originally Posted by John` View Post

For all of those people who want to go directly to the desktop after boot and want a start menu back, use Start8. Its a tool by stardock that allows you to boot directly to the desktop and also brings the start menu back by making the windows 8 metro menu smaller and adding a start button to the desktop. Works nicely in RTM as well for any who have it.

http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/

Don't think that'll work for the final RTM version that is about to release on Technet/MSDNAA; that probably only works in Consumer Preview/earlier releases.
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post #126 of 527
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MS intentionally making it harder for people to opt out of Metro isn't "nothing".
And also, "one click away" is one click too many". I certainly can't be bothered with it.

So you aren't getting Win8 because you have to click once to get to your desktop whenever you restart/boot your computer? Do you realize how absurd these arguments sound? One click, .0001 of a second. No offense, but there's no way you are serious. I'd bet you'll lose much more than that .0001 of a second by using Win7 instead. Win8 is so much more efficient and uses less resources than Win7. Even on my SSD, I notice a speed increase.

Win8 has way to many benefits to skip out on just because you have to click once when you first start your computer. If some people are absolutely that lazy, and avoid Win8 because of this, then thats their loss. I'm willing to bet the majority of people complaining about Win8 will be using Win8 in the next few months. The majority of people have never even used "Metro". It's not even bad, I thought I would absolutely hate it before I tried it and customized it.
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post #127 of 527
It is the consumers' right to purchase whatever product or service they want. If they loathe Windows 8, they can choose other alternatives such as staying with XP/7, buy a Mac/iOS, Android OS, or use Linux or BSD.
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It does work because I'm using it on the RTM release. smile.gif Works just fine.
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It does work because I'm using it on the RTM release. smile.gif Works just fine.

Sshh.. You're not using RTM, you're using Consumer Preview.
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Why of course...Consumer preview is what i meant wink.gif
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