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Originally Posted by andrews2547 View Post

But you could be bothered to spend many hours getting your 2500K stable at 4.5GHz @1.29v? Which actually doesn't make that much of a difference at all in performance. All that overclocking will get you maybe another 5 FPS in games if you're lucky. Besides the quicker boot times make up for that time clicking once. Windows 7 did a cold boot in 45 seconds*. Windows 8 does it in 25-30 seconds* on my rig.
*not including POST time


No, the person I bought the CPU off had the settings for me smile.gif

But please don't try to compare optimising and customising my system against not being able to customise my system. Derp!
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So you aren't getting Win8 because you have to click once to get to your desktop whenever you restart/boot your computer? Do you realize how absurd these arguments sound? One click, .0001 of a second. No offense, but there's no way you are serious. I'd bet you'll lose much more than that .0001 of a second by using Win7 instead. Win8 is so much more efficient and uses less resources than Win7. Even on my SSD, I notice a speed increase.
Win8 has way to many benefits to skip out on just because you have to click once when you first start your computer. If some people are absolutely that lazy, and avoid Win8 because of this, then thats their loss. I'm willing to bet the majority of people complaining about Win8 will be using Win8 in the next few months. The majority of people have never even used "Metro". It's not even bad, I thought I would absolutely hate it before I tried it and customized it.

Sure, and why not have all the apps that want to install and start on boot start, eh? Doesn't take a few seconds to close them all? Why bother to make it so they don't? Oh, that's right, user choice.


It's not absurd when you don't even like Metro to start with to want to totally avoid it and never have to see it more than the first boot. MS have intentionally made that harder/impossible. THAT'S absurd.

The problem here is that you're trying to transpose YOUR method of using your computer onto other people. People are "lazy" because they don't want to click the desktop "app"? I don't think it's about laziness.

The funny thing is, you're right. I hate Windows 8, but I've used the Developer Preview and the Consumer Preview extensively and I'll be grabbing the RTM as soon as an official version hits (except this time I'm going to use a VM instead of wasting time partitioning).

What the Win8 apologists don't seem to get is that for many people (of whom you're all demonising and slating) we simple dislike Metro and don't want to deal with it. They keep finding ways to avoid it or bring back the features they want and MS intentionally obscure that or make it tougher to. That's just plain ridiculous. It's like Microsoft want to force everyone into using it for some money related reason... Oh wait that's exactly it.
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It takes one click to get from "metro" to the desktop, is it really that big of a deal?

Consider the fact that we are all enthusiasts here and then the rest of the computing population is on XP, Vista, or 7. They will barely know their way around those, let alone Windows 8's abomination of a UI.

If we ever upgrade to Win8 at work, I will instantly get calls from about 350 users (really, no joke there) who need help on basic navigation of an OS.
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Bet one week after the official release there gonna be a crack to skip the metro interface. lachen.gif
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I'll stick to Win7....
    
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Bet one week after the official release there gonna be a crack to skip the metro interface. lachen.gif
the guy who is famous for the windows-7 crack, says he wont be cracking windows 8 because he has no interest in the operating system lachen.gif
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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post

It takes one click to get from "metro" to the desktop, is it really that big of a deal?

Yes it is.

on what grounds? incompetence ?
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No, the person I bought the CPU off had the settings for me smile.gif
But please don't try to compare optimising and customising my system against not being able to customise my system. Derp!
Sure, and why not have all the apps that want to install and start on boot start, eh? Doesn't take a few seconds to close them all? Why bother to make it so they don't? Oh, that's right, user choice.
It's not absurd when you don't even like Metro to start with to want to totally avoid it and never have to see it more than the first boot. MS have intentionally made that harder/impossible. THAT'S absurd.
The problem here is that you're trying to transpose YOUR method of using your computer onto other people. People are "lazy" because they don't want to click the desktop "app"? I don't think it's about laziness.
The funny thing is, you're right. I hate Windows 8, but I've used the Developer Preview and the Consumer Preview extensively and I'll be grabbing the RTM as soon as an official version hits (except this time I'm going to use a VM instead of wasting time partitioning).
What the Win8 apologists don't seem to get is that for many people (of whom you're all demonising and slating) we simple dislike Metro and don't want to deal with it. They keep finding ways to avoid it or bring back the features they want and MS intentionally obscure that or make it tougher to. That's just plain ridiculous. It's like Microsoft want to force everyone into using it for some money related reason... Oh wait that's exactly it.

I completely agree that more user options would be better, and i'm with you on that. I just think there's way to much "I'm not getting Win8 because of this!" type posts. While it's annoying for some users, it's definitely not something that should make someone avoid the entire OS. I'm glad you admit that you'll be getting Win8 regardless, and I think that's the path most people will take, even if they hate metro.

I personally like Metro. By default, it sucks. A lot. All those apps can be uninstalled and you can put stuff that only you want on it. I assume people that store shortcuts on their desktop won't care about metro at all and they'll never have to use it after going to the desktop. However, I stored my shortcuts on the start menu. I like keeping my desktop clean, so Metro is great for storing all my shortcuts. All I have to do is go into the corner, or press the Windows key, and all of them are right there. It doesn't bother me, and I prefer it over having a messy desktop.

I feel this Win8 hate will fade away soon after release. It's very cheap to upgrade Win7 to Win8, and I see many people doing it. Most of the hate is from users who have never even tried the OS.
Edited by Murlocke - 8/7/12 at 4:33pm
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I haven't used Win8 myself but I think I'll avoid it. Nothing about Win8 excites me.... Nothing! Its not like Win7's development where we were hanging onto every tidbit of information about it. Win7 was a revelation -- a decent OS right from the first Beta (by which time it was ALREADY better than WinVista)!

Windows 8 however evokes up a sense of dread. The UI (judging from screenshots) just doesn't do it for me. I don't see myself trying to wade through rows and rows of squares trying to find that hidden option/program. I don't even want to think about trying to help perplexed customers figure out what the hell is going on with their Win8 PC.

I can see some M$ die-hards coming up with some cool UI hacks to make it look like a true Win7 successor but I think most of us will be content with Win7.

No. Just no, M$.
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It fascinating how things don't change with us humans. We complain about the same things at the core level like its something new, yet it's the same type of thing we complain about every couple of generations or time periods. I can't wait to see what consumer rights threatening tech the new younger folks will be complaining about in 2040. As for me, I'm going to go ahead and be one of the mentally challenged (one would have to be that or elderly right?) individuals who could actually enjoy using W8 with no decrease in productivity.thumb.gif
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Windows 8 however evokes up a sense of dread. The UI (judging from screenshots) just doesn't do it for me. I don't see myself trying to wade through rows and rows of squares trying to find that hidden option/program. I don't even want to think about trying to help perplexed customers

Metro is nothing like that, you click the desktop button and it's virtually the same as Windows 7 with improvements. Too many people are judging Win8 by screenshots without fully understanding what it is and how it can be customized. It seems you are under the impression that windows has turned into a bunch of squares. After startup, you can avoid metro completely and still use Windows if you wanted.

This is a perfect example on why Win8's feedback is slanted towards negative. Too many people see metro and get the wrong impressions. Don't get me wrong, I said the same things as you before I actually used Win8. Even if you like metro, you'd only spend a couple minutes a day in it. About the same amount of time you spend in your current start menu.

I expect Win8 feedback to be mostly positive after more actually try the OS. I'm seeing more and more people saying they are happy with it. A few months ago, it was universally hated by pretty much everyone (myself included).
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