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I'm not stating it's a concrete fact that it's inferior. I stated FACTS, reasons on why it is inferior in very specific areas. And you didn't even address the whole first paragraph. But let's address your answers:

You are distorting what I said.

FACT: Windows 8 will not automatically add frequently used aplications to the Start screen. I've tried it with the Consumer Preview. Unless they changed it since, this is a FACT. What you are saying is that you can add them manually. That is irrelevant.

FACT NR 2: There are no jumplists on the Metro Start screen. Again, I've tried this on the Consumer Preview. Did they change it in the meantime ?


Again, you are distorting what I said. Normal Windows search is exactly what I described in the last part of that paragraph and it is SLOWER to accomplish, because it requires more clicks, than using Windows 7's Start Menu.

Lol, now you are just going out of your way saying that you should manually add stuff to the Start screen, which is obviously a much slower process to achieve usability, when you can just type in whatever you want on the Start Menu and browse using a single cursor key ? In essence you're saying that you really don't need search at all. Heck, just put everything on the Start Screen. That will surely not look like a mess with dozens of stuff to look at.

You are just proving my point. In order to have a usable Windows 8 people will have to keep organizing stuff on the Metro screen and adding Restart / Shut down in order to make the experience as good as Windows 7. Oh, and you can press the Windows key and click Shut down ? Since when ? I tried it on the Consumer and all I get is the Start screen, and then have to click on my user account, select "Sign out" and then click to get out of the initial screen that shows a picture and then click on the power button and then select Shut down from that menu. Did they change this in the Release Preview and / or RTM ?

Problem is, you're not really disproving what I said. What I said is a fact.

No, I actually used the Consumer Preview. Which is, you know, the version that is supposed to give err... consumers an idea of what to expect. Apparently Windows 8 is such a work in progress that they have changed a lot of stuff in the Release Preview and then RTM ?

And by the way, how on earth can you be criticizing me for not having used RTM, since it hasn't been officially released yet, and anybody using it downloaded it illegally ?
Edited by tpi2007 - 8/7/12 at 8:40pm

I never adjusted any settings on my copy of Windows 7, except to tell UAC to not dim the screen when prompting and put the "My computer" icon on the desktop. That is all. And it's all easily doable, unlike some workarounds being suggested for Windows 8.

Wait, so I addressed every single one of your failed attempts to prove that I'm wrong and now I'm missing your point ? Lol, talk about a way to spin things in your favor. The truth is, you didn't give workarounds to many of those things I said, you just said you could accomplish them in a slower manner, and there are no workarounds to make them work faster, because the UI is either flawed or is missing features which might or not have been added to the RTM.

Are there jump lists on the Metro screen ? No. How am I supposed to work any faster ? What workaround is there to this ? None. Just use Windows 8 as I would use Windows 7 by going to the desktop and having the program icons pinned to the taskbar, which is ultimately a slower way to accomplish things, especially since now I always have to click to go to the desktop, and because I might not want to put those programs in the taskbar, but only take advantage of them being temporarily put on the frequently used programs list on the Start Menu. What ways did you give me to improve workflow in Windows 8 in this respect ? None.

You also didn't reply to the question I asked if they had made the Shut down procedure any easier with the Release Preview. How am I supposed to accomplish things faster or at least as fast as in Windows7 while not using the Windows 7's ways of doing things ?

What about searching for stuff with a given criteria or that isn't an App ? How can I do stuff faster or at least as fast as in Windows 7 with Windows 8 without using Windows 7's ways of doing things ? All you replied was that what I had already said, that I can do it like I can already do it in Windows 7, in one of the slower ways.

What you are saying is that implicitly this is probably one of the worst OS launches ever. They made three public launches, Developer Preview, Consumer Preview and Release Preview, and none of them, apparently not even Release Preview, unlike Windows 7 Release Candidate, is feature complete in fundamental aspects of the UI.
Edited by tpi2007 - 8/7/12 at 9:27pm