[TH] - No Booting Straight to Desktop in Windows 8 - Page 21  

Originally Posted by Addict1973 


I'm not having the issues you are. I just launch chrome from the desktop and it appears to work no differently than in win 7. I am running dual monitors right now though. I've got my weather app pinned to the side of my second monitor and in the other 4/5 ths of that screen i'm able to switch between any metro apps I choose.On my main screen I have my desktop which works no differently for me than windows 7 desktop. I can place shortcuts on it or in my taskbar. Orrrr I can hit a button on my mouse and toggle my second screen to a very easily navigatable start menu. I prob spelled something wrong there!

I've been playing with this for exactly one day and I'm liking it more by the minute. I have bound a few things to my mouse including the windows key, charms menu, and alt f4 which works quite well for closing everything. Alt f4 bound to my mouse makes shutdown or re-start quite simple.

Don't like the fullscreen apps. Run stuff from the desktop. Simple really.

Originally Posted by tpi2007 

I never adjusted any settings on my copy of Windows 7, except to tell UAC to not dim the screen when prompting and put the "My computer" icon on the desktop. That is all. And it's all easily doable, unlike some workarounds being suggested for Windows 8.
Wait, so I addressed every single one of your failed attempts to prove that I'm wrong and now I'm missing your point ? Lol, talk about a way to spin things in your favor. The truth is, you didn't give workarounds to many of those things I said, you just said you could accomplish them in a slower manner, and there are no workarounds to make them work faster, because the UI is either flawed or is missing features which might or not have been added to the RTM.
Are there jump lists on the Metro screen ? No. How am I supposed to work any faster ? What workaround is there to this ? None. Just use Windows 8 as I would use Windows 7 by going to the desktop and having the program icons pinned to the taskbar, which is ultimately a slower way to accomplish things, especially since now I always have to click to go to the desktop, and because I might not want to put those programs in the taskbar, but only take advantage of them being temporarily put on the frequently used programs list on the Start Menu. What ways did you give me to improve workflow in Windows 8 in this respect ? None.
You also didn't reply to the question I asked if they had made the Shut down procedure any easier with the Release Preview. How am I supposed to accomplish things faster or at least as fast as in Windows7 while not using the Windows 7's ways of doing things ?
What about searching for stuff with a given criteria or that isn't an App ? How can I do stuff faster or at least as fast as in Windows 7 with Windows 8 without using Windows 7's ways of doing things ? All you replied was that what I had already said, that I can do it like I can already do it in Windows 7, in one of the slower ways.
What you are saying is that implicitly this is probably one of the worst OS launches ever. They made three public launches, Developer Preview, Consumer Preview and Release Preview, and none of them, apparently not even Release Preview, unlike Windows 7 Release Candidate, is feature complete in fundamental aspects of the UI.

Originally Posted by Warmonger 

"omg I now have to take the 0.30 seconds to click the desktop tile, stupid Microsoft worst company ever, Windows 8 worst OS ever too" lol really? how about everyone who's a complainer learn how to let go of the old way of doing things. It was slow and inefficient. Microsoft spent years working up these new designs for Windows 8, to make it a faster, easier, and a more robust work environment. If you haven't figured out the true speed of Windows 8 by now, go crawl back into your Windows 7 hole. These little hot fixes are there to prevent you complainy-pants from "hack jobbing" the OS. The real reason for it, is Microsoft is protecting you. Pushing you to learn what you need to learn, and use it the way its meant to be used. Microsoft doesn't want to see Windows 8 get all hacked up into some Windows 7 mutt, and I don't blame them.

Originally Posted by tpi2007 

Unlike you, I have used Windows 8 extensively and am able to recognize when and if Microsoft does good things and bad things

You just ran around the topic not really revealing if the problems were fixed in the RTM or not

Originally Posted by Murlocke 


Didn't you just get done saying you haven't used the RTM? Yet... I've been using the RTM for about a week now at my job. So how exactly have you used Win8 extensively but I haven't? It's been stated by many that the release preview is nothing like the RTM. You have used a cut up preview version of Windows 8, that even I said wasn't very good. Considering all of your opinions are based on the release preview, I agree with you completely. The release preview is inferior to Win7 in many ways. However, in my opinion, the RTM is not. There's only a couple ways it's inferior, and most can be customized to not be an issue at all. There's are many ways it's superior. Overall, I feel it is a much better OS.

I didn't run around your problems, I explained to you ways to customize your OS to help fix the problems you are having with it. Yes, they require you to change your habits but no matter what Win8 is going to require you to change the way you use the OS.

Originally Posted by Murlocke 

Didn't you just get done saying you haven't used the RTM? Yet... I've been using the RTM for about a week now at my job. So how exactly have you used Win8 extensively but I haven't? It's been stated by many that the release preview is nothing like the RTM. You have used a cut up preview version of Windows 8, that even I said wasn't very good. Considering all of your opinions are based on the release preview, I agree with you completely. The release preview is inferior to Win7 in many ways. However, in my opinion, the RTM is not. There's only a couple ways it's inferior, and most can be customized to not be an issue at all. There's are many ways it's superior. Overall, I feel it is a much better OS.
I didn't run around your problems, I explained to you ways to customize your OS to help fix the problems you are having with it. Yes, they require you to change your habits but no matter what Win8 is going to require you to change the way you use the OS.

Originally Posted by pioneerisloud 

If the RTM is so good, then please explain to me how to fix my one complaint about it? I don't even mind Metro, but I don't want it to force me to run all my stuff in fullscreen mode, when I have such a large monitor.

Originally Posted by tompsonn 

Stop bothering, seriously! You won't get anywhere. These people complain when Microsoft makes *zero* changes to the UI, and then they complain when they do. Furthermore I am glad there are more customizations that you've mentioned for the Start screen in the RTM - one thing I was annoyed with was the shutdown thing too, but if you can add a button then WOOHO - how is this anymore different from adding (or god forbid, *changing* !) the buttons you wanted to the current Start menu? +1 to you, sir!
@tpi: The thing that is getting on my nerves is the bit where you mention the API is flawed. How is it flawed? The Windows Runtime is a supercharged COM, and it is an excellent platform.

Originally Posted by tpi2007 

So, you just finally admitted that you have been using the RTM for a week and still haven't said one concrete thing about what exactly is not locked down anymore ? You said in many of your posts that you felt that they locked down too much in the Release Preview, but what exactly is that ? Are you bound by an NDA ?

Originally Posted by Murlocke 

That's definitely a bug. If I was in your shoes, i'd just put the programs in the taskbar until it's fixed. There might even be a registry setting for it somewhere.
Adding shutdown/restart is still not on Metro by default sadly. Google how to make a restart and shutdown shortcut, then put those on Metro. You can change the shortcut icon to perfectly match what it does.