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Originally Posted by tpi2007 
We're back to square one. You think it's best to adapt to something regardless if you think it's actually worse. You just said it in your last post when you talked about having to work with Xcode. I understand you have to make to to make a living and are possibly not in the best position to try to contribute to changes so that the platform is better, but still, you are a lot more qualified than me to propose changes and be taken seriously, yet you sound like you just resigned yourself to work with whatever gets thrown your way without even trying to propose changes to the guys who make the platform so that your own work gets easier and more productive.
I'm not saying you have the best chances to succeed, but your general attitude seems to be a general deterrent to make any serious incursions in that field.
With all my posts I try to get a better product. I make objective criticism, I point out things that worked before in Windows 7 and now don't in Windows 8, I'm not here to bash just to bash, I do it with constructivism, yet some people just choose to ignore that part. I have made suggestions as to how this could all be mitigated and the discussion be made largely irrelevant, but obviously Microsoft wants you and me to see the Metro start screen at every boot-up so we might eventually buy something from their store, taking away 30% of the price, eventually cutting into your profit margins. This is one of the problems why they won't make Metro a desktop applications that could work in windowed mode (the other is the fact that Metro is vectorized and the desktop still isn't, which is something they will have to correct in Windows 9, leading me to believe that Windows 9 will solve most if not all the problems 8 has).
This is as much a technical criticism as a company strategy criticism. In the end I hope to get a better OS. I have ideas to suggest for changes. I don't resign to use whatever gets thrown to my way. And in a sense I have a lot more freedom than you. I, and all the other users get to decide what eventually you will be using as your development platform. If we don't buy Windows 8 or even if we do but we don't embrace the store, you won't be programming that kind of apps. In a sense I have a lot more responsibility to try and change for the better, but you0re a consumer too, you can have your say too, and I'm not sure how far the Lordikon the professional programmer is hindering Lordikon the consumer in that task.
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Originally Posted by lordikon
I didn't say you had to like it, I just said it's best to adapt to it.
Change will happen, whether you like it or not. There are people that love newspapers, yet those will still go away eventually replaced by digital media, or people that love CDs, or people that loved DOS, etc.
You cannot use Windows 7 forever, at some point change affect you whether you want it to or not. In my job, I must embrace change quickly. I started out making games for PC and Mac, and in the 4 years I spent on just one game the gaming industry went from having no iPhone/Android to having iOS sales alone outstrip Microsoft's total profits. Did I think I'd be where I am now a few years ago, no, but I have to embrace it and adapt anyway, or I'll become the old people that I dread that have outdated skills and knowledge.
I didn't say you had to like it, I just said it's best to adapt to it.
Change will happen, whether you like it or not. There are people that love newspapers, yet those will still go away eventually replaced by digital media, or people that love CDs, or people that loved DOS, etc.
You cannot use Windows 7 forever, at some point change affect you whether you want it to or not. In my job, I must embrace change quickly. I started out making games for PC and Mac, and in the 4 years I spent on just one game the gaming industry went from having no iPhone/Android to having iOS sales alone outstrip Microsoft's total profits. Did I think I'd be where I am now a few years ago, no, but I have to embrace it and adapt anyway, or I'll become the old people that I dread that have outdated skills and knowledge.
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Originally Posted by lordikon
The 4 years I mentioned was with NetDevil and LEGO. I'm now working at Backflip Studios.
Another example of change. I have to use XCode now to develop games, which is pretty terrible compared to Visual Studio, but I have to embrace it anyhow, and learn how to be efficient within the IDE.
The 4 years I mentioned was with NetDevil and LEGO. I'm now working at Backflip Studios.
Another example of change. I have to use XCode now to develop games, which is pretty terrible compared to Visual Studio, but I have to embrace it anyhow, and learn how to be efficient within the IDE.
We're back to square one. You think it's best to adapt to something regardless if you think it's actually worse. You just said it in your last post when you talked about having to work with Xcode. I understand you have to make to to make a living and are possibly not in the best position to try to contribute to changes so that the platform is better, but still, you are a lot more qualified than me to propose changes and be taken seriously, yet you sound like you just resigned yourself to work with whatever gets thrown your way without even trying to propose changes to the guys who make the platform so that your own work gets easier and more productive.
I'm not saying you have the best chances to succeed, but your general attitude seems to be a general deterrent to make any serious incursions in that field.
With all my posts I try to get a better product. I make objective criticism, I point out things that worked before in Windows 7 and now don't in Windows 8, I'm not here to bash just to bash, I do it with constructivism, yet some people just choose to ignore that part. I have made suggestions as to how this could all be mitigated and the discussion be made largely irrelevant, but obviously Microsoft wants you and me to see the Metro start screen at every boot-up so we might eventually buy something from their store, taking away 30% of the price, eventually cutting into your profit margins. This is one of the problems why they won't make Metro a desktop applications that could work in windowed mode (the other is the fact that Metro is vectorized and the desktop still isn't, which is something they will have to correct in Windows 9, leading me to believe that Windows 9 will solve most if not all the problems 8 has).
This is as much a technical criticism as a company strategy criticism. In the end I hope to get a better OS. I have ideas to suggest for changes. I don't resign to use whatever gets thrown to my way. And in a sense I have a lot more freedom than you. I, and all the other users get to decide what eventually you will be using as your development platform. If we don't buy Windows 8 or even if we do but we don't embrace the store, you won't be programming that kind of apps. In a sense I have a lot more responsibility to try and change for the better, but you0re a consumer too, you can have your say too, and I'm not sure how far the Lordikon the professional programmer is hindering Lordikon the consumer in that task.
I've filed feature requests and bug reports to Apple, but it's their software and they don't allow plug-ins, so there isn't much I can do to change that, short of writing my own SDK, like Unity, that sits on top of Xcode but gives you a different editor. Something like that would be a huge task, require multiple programmers and a couple years of time to get any kind of decent result.
I'm not saying everybody should just dive in a buy Windows 8 even if they don't like it, but everyone should at least download the free release candidate and use it for a few weeks to give it a serious try, learn about it, learn how to customize it to their liking. If Windows 8 succeeds then it's likely that Windows 9, 10+ will be similar, and the person stuck on Windows 7 will eventually need to move on. If they simply cannot stand Windows at that point then there are always alternatives like Ubuntu and OS X. My main point earlier when I was talking about change, is that many people are resistant to things simply because they're different, and that makes them uncomfortable. If you don't want to become an old dinosaur that's stuck in the past you need to welcome that uncomfortability and learn from it so you can move on.
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