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post #11 of 24
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As much as having a i7 extreme processor would be awesome, between the cpu and motherboard I don't have that money while I am in school. I got the 1100t because it was cheap and well balanced with my GTX 570. I didn't think a processor effected frame rate that much unless the application is heavily physics based. So far my AMD has been faster than all the PC I use with i7 (I know that is blasphemy to say that here) but those pc are all the computers at work and university so they are probably low end CPU's. Eventually I will upgrade but the processor so far has not been a bottle neck for my gaming, I suppose that will change with my SLI configuration but not until more demanding games come out. As much as getting better speed out of my PC is awesome its more bench marking and theory, the practice of gaming and simulation is why I made a decently high end PC.

Also I would love to do some online trading with a community I can trust but shipping from the states to where I live is expensive. The shipping on my DigiKey orders is usually 3 times more than my order. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
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I say SLI but only if you can get a cheap used gtx 570. Not sure how Canadian prices are but $274 sounds like more then its worth. If you can get a second 570 for less then $200 then it starts making sense other wise just stick with the one card for now.

Also I get the "as it's meant to be played" mentality. I'm like that my self but really you don't need to max PC games for them to look vastly superior to the console versions. Witcher 2 looks way better even without ubersampling but I'm sure you already knew that rolleyes.gif
    
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I guess $274 is still a lot for a card but I have been waiting since it was $400 so it didn't seem that bad, and above I tried to justify (more for myself) that the money I spent was the best possible price to performance I can get in the near future.

And yeah if I wanted to play for a story there are a lot of older games that are fantastic, but new games look so good that its hard not be impressed playing on a big high-res monitor. cheers.gif
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post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by SDH500 View Post

As much as having a i7 extreme processor would be awesome, between the cpu and motherboard I don't have that money while I am in school. I got the 1100t because it was cheap and well balanced with my GTX 570. I didn't think a processor effected frame rate that much unless the application is heavily physics based. So far my AMD has been faster than all the PC I use with i7 (I know that is blasphemy to say that here) but those pc are all the computers at work and university so they are probably low end CPU's. Eventually I will upgrade but the processor so far has not been a bottle neck for my gaming, I suppose that will change with my SLI configuration but not until more demanding games come out. As much as getting better speed out of my PC is awesome its more bench marking and theory, the practice of gaming and simulation is why I made a decently high end PC.
Also I would love to do some online trading with a community I can trust but shipping from the states to where I live is expensive. The shipping on my DigiKey orders is usually 3 times more than my order. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
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Hey,

The CPU is what actually render's the frames, and with having a higher-GFLOPS bandwidth, really does increase framerate production. Also, having a better motherboard layout (Meaning what and how fast this interacts with this, and so forth) makes a big difference too. Wonder why I'm going back to LGA 775? smile.gif
AMD CPU's just aren't big or good performers, unless you are looking at video-encoding/HD Video. Anything other than that, Intel is the best way to go. I'd first throw money at a new CPU/Mobo, instead of creating a bottleneck for your system. It's the better option. Find a good CPU/Mobo combo for LGA 1155. Benchmarks don't mean anything to me. I look at real performance! You should to. thumb.gif
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Hey,
The CPU is what actually render's the frames, and with having a higher-GFLOPS bandwidth, really does increase framerate production. Also, having a better motherboard layout (Meaning what and how fast this interacts with this, and so forth) makes a big difference too. Wonder why I'm going back to LGA 775? smile.gif
AMD CPU's just aren't big or good performers, unless you are looking at video-encoding/HD Video. Anything other than that, Intel is the best way to go. I'd first throw money at a new CPU/Mobo, instead of creating a bottleneck for your system. It's the better option. Find a good CPU/Mobo combo for LGA 1155. Benchmarks don't mean anything to me. I look at real performance! You should to. thumb.gif

Wow just wow. Pretty much everything you say in this post is wrong. The CPU renders the frames? No it does not. The CPU sends the vertex coordinates (the none rasterized geometry) to the GPU where it is then rendered. CPU to GPU bandwidth/latency has never been a limiting factor unless you run a top end card like a gtx 680 on an old 1.0 PCI-E x8 link.

What you say about AMD CPU's is also wrong. They are not more suited to video-encoding or any other task then Intel. What mater in video-encoding and other productivity is raw CPU power. AMD has some decent chips but Intel's top CPU's are faster then anything AMD so in essence Intel CPU's are better suited for video-encoding if you have the money to go for the top of the line models. On the other hand in gaming AMD's phenom II line has proven to be very capable and CPU's like the 1100T are still fast enough to be considered good gaming chips.

I don't know if you are trolling or just plain ignorant. You say "look at real performance" but clearly you have not done so your self. Come back when you have educated your self.
    
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While it may not be an apples to apples comparison, I too was in the same dilemma you are in several months ago. I had at the time an HD5770, and I was happy with its performance up until BF3 came out. I was able to run BF3 at high settings with playable framerates, but I wanted to be able to max the game out.

Being that I had already invested into one card, and the second would be merely $100 more, crossfiring HD5770's was a serious consideration. The way I saw it is that not only had their been improvements between the two generations of cards since the HD5xxx series, but there were other things to look at as well. Whenever you look at an SLI or Crossfire setup, you have to factor in an increase in heat and power consumption. Additionally you also run the risk of game compatibility and micro-stuttering issues with certain titles.

With my particular situation, I found it much better to jump on a new HD7870, as it was more than twice as fast as what I had, and I could max out BF3 with no worries about micro-stutter, increased heat, or power consumption. At the time I was weighing between a second HD5770, a GTX570, and what I currently have. I determined that the HD7870 was the best fit for me.

For your situation, with a GTX660 TI, or GTX670 you would be looking at a more mature product. I know that some of the GTX570's had issues with noise, heat and VRM circuitry. While I do not know all the specific improvements that kepler has brought, I do know that it is an improvement over in just about every way. With a GTX670, you could overclock the card to reach approximately the same performance level as a GTX680, which from what your saying is relative to 2 GTX570's in SLI.

I would say that whatever your choice may be, there really is no wrong answer, however in my opinion, a newer architecture with some architectural improvements is a better investment.
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While heat and power consumption has not been a concern with my cooling solution and my psu, trying to understand how to configure SLI properly has been slow. So far as I can tell if I would have got a 600 series card I wouldn't have had any issues running 4 screens. It seems that if I have SLI enabled only for games I need a 3rd different card to have more than 2 monitors, and there doesn't seem to be a quick way of changing from SLI to 4 monitor set up. I guess I will have to agree with Mattb2e in that I could have got a more "mature" solution. As for compatibility with games I guess I will learn quick but I am guessing that most games that are not compatible will not be an issue for an single 570, and most new games coming out will probably be compatible that would require SLI to get 60 FPS.

I am hoping that my SLI set up will be good enough to last well into the 7xx series and hopefully 8xx. I enjoy how relatively cheap computers are to modify, compared to $2000 for new tires for my truck I am willing to make a bad judgment call in a computer system. In this case I don't think I will suffer from picking the SLI 570's but I will find out for sure, depending on how much money I could have saved waiting a few more months or if I ever get my system configured how I want it to be, if my choice was the right one. Thank you all for your opinions and feedback, I will know what to consider for next time.

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post #18 of 24
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While heat and power consumption has not been a concern with my cooling solution and my psu, trying to understand how to configure SLI properly has been slow. So far as I can tell if I would have got a 600 series card I wouldn't have had any issues running 4 screens. It seems that if I have SLI enabled only for games I need a 3rd different card to have more than 2 monitors, and there doesn't seem to be a quick way of changing from SLI to 4 monitor set up. I guess I will have to agree with Mattb2e in that I could have got a more "mature" solution. As for compatibility with games I guess I will learn quick but I am guessing that most games that are not compatible will not be an issue for an single 570, and most new games coming out will probably be compatible that would require SLI to get 60 FPS.
I am hoping that my SLI set up will be good enough to last well into the 7xx series and hopefully 8xx. I enjoy how relatively cheap computers are to modify, compared to $2000 for new tires for my truck I am willing to make a bad judgment call in a computer system. In this case I don't think I will suffer from picking the SLI 570's but I will find out for sure, depending on how much money I could have saved waiting a few more months or if I ever get my system configured how I want it to be, if my choice was the right one. Thank you all for your opinions and feedback, I will know what to consider for next time.
cheers.gif

Im thinking that 2 GTX570's should hold you over for a while. Games unfortunately do not improve at the same pace as the hardware we get to play them. There arent too many titles that will fully tax 2 570's let alone 1. So you should be good for a while for sure. I would bet that the next generations of cards will be similar to the improvement I saw. Perhaps a GTX770 will outperform 2 570's.

Only time will tell biggrin.gif. Until then, enjoy your setup!
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To switch between screens on my rig I use win+p, for the 4th screen I use my cpu z68 output. Not sure how amd cpu's are, does you board have screen hookups on it? If so do they work?
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Unfortunatly I don't have any video out for my mother board, it is intended to use a dedicated graphics card for any video out. It looks like I will just have to reset my screens anytime I use SLI
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