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Originally Posted by tycoonbob 
Some people on here post the same thing, on each persons post...thinking that everyone is going to use their server the same. You are correct with the TDP rating, in that a higher TDP generally means a CPU is going to use more power than one with a lower TPD, unless you want to argue about the load and which will have a higher load. I will say that on all 3 of my current servers, I fold on them as well. That means that the CPU is run 100% just about all the time (Folding, of course, is the lowest priority task...so if something else, such as Hyper-V, needs the CPU...it will take it from Folding).
In my case, TDP is something I would consider.
If you aren't doing something like Folding, or converting something, or processing something...your CPU will see a lot of idle time. I have never been one to complain, or build a computer/server based on power requirements. I just figure that if I have a build that uses a 400W PSU, that I should figure it is using 75% of that on average, and look at my costs then. With all my equipment (3 servers, firewall, 2 switches, modem, router, 3 PCs, 2 Laptops, monitors galore...) it's probably only like $20-40 of my electricity bill, which is still only $150ish per month, on a 2000sq ft home (less than a year old, and is pretty efficient). Since I use my computer equipment so much, I can easily justify that cost. Now if it was going to double my electricity, I would worry...
Sorry for the rambles, but I guess what I am saying is that some people should be ignored, and their input not weighed much. Personally, power costs are not a huge concern to me, so it's not something I typically factor (but yet I still want a low TDP in something such as my firewall--which is a server running Untangle, or my NUS server--doesn't process too much, since I have a hardware raid controller).
/endrant
Some people on here post the same thing, on each persons post...thinking that everyone is going to use their server the same. You are correct with the TDP rating, in that a higher TDP generally means a CPU is going to use more power than one with a lower TPD, unless you want to argue about the load and which will have a higher load. I will say that on all 3 of my current servers, I fold on them as well. That means that the CPU is run 100% just about all the time (Folding, of course, is the lowest priority task...so if something else, such as Hyper-V, needs the CPU...it will take it from Folding).
In my case, TDP is something I would consider.
If you aren't doing something like Folding, or converting something, or processing something...your CPU will see a lot of idle time. I have never been one to complain, or build a computer/server based on power requirements. I just figure that if I have a build that uses a 400W PSU, that I should figure it is using 75% of that on average, and look at my costs then. With all my equipment (3 servers, firewall, 2 switches, modem, router, 3 PCs, 2 Laptops, monitors galore...) it's probably only like $20-40 of my electricity bill, which is still only $150ish per month, on a 2000sq ft home (less than a year old, and is pretty efficient). Since I use my computer equipment so much, I can easily justify that cost. Now if it was going to double my electricity, I would worry...
Sorry for the rambles, but I guess what I am saying is that some people should be ignored, and their input not weighed much. Personally, power costs are not a huge concern to me, so it's not something I typically factor (but yet I still want a low TDP in something such as my firewall--which is a server running Untangle, or my NUS server--doesn't process too much, since I have a hardware raid controller).
/endrant
I will probably use the computer maybe %10-15 of the time. Although my dad has music running most of the day, but I can consider that almost idle performance.
I did some rudementary calculations and came to the conclusion that if my computer was using 150W of power 24/7 for a month the bill would only be about $11 more.
So even at 300W, $22 a month is not terrible.
We live in a 5500sq ft home which is 3-4 years old, average electric bill is about $220 but since I moved out it's porbably around $150
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Originally Posted by ramicio
You rested nothing. You were talking about a processor you already had and listed a TDP number for no reason other than obsession. I know plenty about thermodynamics. TDP is an indication of how much heat the CPU will ever put out, now how efficient it is with electricity and processing. TDP also only matters at max load. It means nothing for a server that is mainly going to sit there at idle. Its importance is for choosing a heat sink. TDP matters for me because I encode video almost 24/7. I still don't care about it.
You rested nothing. You were talking about a processor you already had and listed a TDP number for no reason other than obsession. I know plenty about thermodynamics. TDP is an indication of how much heat the CPU will ever put out, now how efficient it is with electricity and processing. TDP also only matters at max load. It means nothing for a server that is mainly going to sit there at idle. Its importance is for choosing a heat sink. TDP matters for me because I encode video almost 24/7. I still don't care about it.
I'm just going to stop this senseless arguing.
