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I picked up an ASUS A53Z from Newegg while they were on sale for a measly $360. I'm amazed. Truly an incredible laptop, especially for the price.

Anyway, I've been working on overclocking it -- no problem really since the cooling system is GREAT -- and I've noticed some... irregularities.

Using K10STAT to adjust the multiplier at various P states, I originally set my max non-turbo clock speed at 1700MHz, up from the stock 1500MHz. As I typically do, I ran Cinebench to confirm it was at least fairly stable instead of wasting hours on Prime95 just to go up another 100MHz increment and try again. However, I noticed that CPU-Z said that the clock speed was frequently jumping between 1100 and 1750MHz. I was thinking, "what the hell?" I also had P states of 1250, 1400, and 1550MHz between those two. Whatever, I thought, I still got a sizable increase in my Cinebench score over the stock 1500MHz (with which I did NOT observe this rapid fluctuation). Set the max non-turbo clock to 1.8GHz. Observed the same thing -- jumps between 1200 and 1850MHz. Whatever. I still got another increase in the score, everything seemed stable, and I was still running at stock voltage! I decided to forget 1.9GHz and skip to 2GHz, and also add a minimal voltage bump. So far, perfectly stable. However, at these settings I can NEVER seem to replicate that type of rapid, drastic fluctuation.

Is that... normal?
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This is probably happening due to default base clock of 102-103 (Which should obviously have stayed at 100MHz) . I don't know why it happens but I too have seen this with one of my friend's Laptop. It has A6-3400M 1.5Ghz-2.4Ghz. But at load, CPU always run between 1537Mhz - 2459Mhz. It seems the clock generator in the chipset has some sort of fluctuation resulting upping the base clock.
Well it doesn't seem a big problem. It should be running fine as it is.
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This is probably happening due to default base clock of 102-103 (Which should obviously have stayed at 100MHz) . I don't know why it happens but I too have seen this with one of my friend's Laptop. It has A6-3400M 1.5Ghz-2.4Ghz. But at load, CPU always run between 1537Mhz - 2459Mhz. It seems the clock generator in the chipset has some sort of fluctuation resulting upping the base clock.
Well it doesn't seem a big problem. It should be running fine as it is.

I did notice the BCLK flying between 99 and 106, but that doesn't account for a 700MHz difference... and at 2GHz, this doesn't happen anymore... thanks though. And yeah, it's nothing important.
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Wow smile.gif I'm surprised a laptop could also be overclocked. I didn't know, last time I had one in 2007 redface.gif Now I am feeling I should get one again.
Man you really made a great deal buying it at $360. It is really a faster laptop at great price.

One thing I want to tell that my current Board also (990FXA UD5) shows 201-202 base clock at auto BIOS. But when I manually set the Base clock to 200, It perfectly stays at 200. May be new socket/chipset specifically doing this for Thuban.
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Wow smile.gif I'm surprised a laptop could also be overclocked. I didn't know, last time I had one in 2007 redface.gif Now I am feeling I should get one again.
Man you really made a great deal buying it at $360. It is really a faster laptop at great price.
One thing I want to tell that my current Board also (990FXA UD5) shows 201-202 base clock at auto BIOS. But when I manually set the Base clock to 200, It perfectly stays at 200. May be new socket/chipset specifically doing this for Thuban.

It's done through software in Windows. It's just that K10STAT is specifically catered to AMD K10/10.5/12 CPUs and has some very advanced settings that make it about as great as setting the options in the BIOS. Not sure if any similar software exists for GNU/Linux, which I'm also going to install.

It only actually works because AMD doesn't bother to lock the multipliers on their laptop chips anyway.

The price was really impressive... it's up to $440 on Newegg, which is still a very good price considering not just the specs but the quality. I bought a 4GB DIMM for $20 and used a Scorpio Black I already had, though... I hear it's pretty sluggish with the stock 5400 rpm HDD, and obviously 3GB of RAM doesn't really cut it anymore (especially in Windows).

I usually see a ~1MHz BCLK fluctuation on my Thuban with an M5A97 EVO.
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It's done through software in Windows. It's just that K10STAT is specifically catered to AMD K10/10.5/12 CPUs and has some very advanced settings that make it about as great as setting the options in the BIOS. Not sure if any similar software exists for GNU/Linux, which I'm also going to install.
It only actually works because AMD doesn't bother to lock the multipliers on their laptop chips anyway.

Hey Usario, I didn't know this. Thanks for sharing it to me. thumb.gif
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It should be the normal turbo behavior. If C1E enabled, I think there are much more steps between speeds. Normally, if only turbo is enabled on for example Thuban chips, there's idle speed, there's normal speed on load and there's occassional turbo speed. So only 3 different clocks.
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