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1] 0x7E = Corrupted OS file [Bad Video Driver]
Reinstalled, Fixed
2] 0x50 = RAM timings/Frequency unstable
Restored Defaults, Enabled X.M.P, Fixed
3] 0x1E = increase vcore
1.265 to 1.270, now going to 1.275
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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

Thanks very much to all who contribute here, very helpful and informative.
Unfortunately I am just an old man building his first computer (bought from custom builders before) and attempting to learn overclocking for the first time. Therefore I have what I assume to be rather stupid questions, and hoping someone can help me out.
Hardware: i7-3770k, Asus P8Z77-V Pro, Crucial 16gb (2x8) 1600, Corsair AX850, Antec Kuhler H2O 620, and I am currently using an old hard drive and just the motherboard video while I am waiting to receive a Crucial M4 256gb, and an EVGA 670 FTW LE. I have the latest bios of 1708.
I followed all the settings in the OP, but I also have iGPU Voltage and iGPU Offset Voltage, which are not in the OP so I left them at offset mode and auto. No idea if that is right or not.
Two first big questions are: which temperatures do I care most about? The CPU cores seem easy to watch with HWMonitor or RealTemp, but watching CPU temp seems hard because I am not sure which to look at and HWMonitor has a problem with my setup because it always spikes to crazy high numbers. Second question is that no matter what I set CPU Voltage to manually the computer always goes 2 to 3 hundredths higher. So a manual entry in bios of 1.24 means the voltage will be 1.25 to 1.27. What am I doing wrong?

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Just a follow up to my post above. I apologize if what I need help with are those things where you guys get annoyed and think, just look it up stupid. I have searched for the answers and found enough contradicting information that I was hoping to get some insight.
Also I don't understand how offset voltages works for you guys. I have my system set up at 100*44 for 4400MHz and cpu manual voltage set to 1.23 and it seems to be stable so far. The actual voltage used goes to 1.256 (thus my question in the first post as to the difference) and my 4 cpu core temps are staying below 80c while my motherboard and cpu temps (according to the Asus sensor recorder) are staying below 60c on Prime95. I don't know if those are where they should be but seems OK so far.
But when I change from manual to offset mode, keeping everything else the same, and pick a +.045 offset then cpu voltage spikes to 1.384 and my temps go way up. So I guess I don't understand how you can use offsets or I have something set wrong. Anyway, any help is appreciated.


I actually saw your posts last night, but went to sleep shortly after tongue.gif

First of all welcome to OCN thumb.gif
Secondly, there is nothing to be ashamed of nor are your questions "annoying" or anything like that.

Unto your concerns:
Now that iGPU thing, is on-board graphics on your i7 - it is useful, however when you get your GTX670 in, that iGPU will become absolutely useless.
The point for iGPU is to be used for people who don't have a graphics card, or have a weak graphics card, and thus need the on-board processing power of the intel i7's one, in order to run more optimally.

A few points to make here:
Usually iGPU would come in handy, but for people like you and me, with an actual graphics card, it is thoroughly useless.
So, if you have your GTX670 installed, I suggest disabling anything iGPU related - that also includes ignoring to install VirtuMVP from asus (as that will screw around with your graphics card) - virtu is a software designed to help FPS on the intel on-board graphics, and to save energy of your system, by re-routing certain low-level graphics things to your CPU rather than your GPU. Meaning your GPU (GTX670) can stay cooler. (I should also note that virtu isn't available for all boards, but it came with mine)
On to cooling: With iGPU, when being used, will consume a little bit of volts - now when OC'ing the last thing you want is a little more volts.
Don't get me wrong there's nothing wrong with OCing with iGPU enabled, but if you don't need it, then why put extra volts inside?

Long story short disable iGPU when you get your GTX670 installed.

Now as Swag said, start with manual rather than offset.

As for your temps they are fine - but be wary of trusting that pesky ai SUIT II for motherboard temps. It is fine to an extent, but can give very odd readings like 127c for your motherboard temps.

Regarding your +0.45 offset - that's because you aren't working out the proper offset, nor know what your actual stable manual vcore is - thus with that type of offset, you might be hitting over 1.3v (if translated in manual vcore terms) and thus why you see a huge spike in temps.
As I'm sure you know, higher volts = higher temps

Hope that answers everything - and I'm glad the pictures are helping people.


Note to Swag:
Would be useful to add to the list of prgrams in the OP:
Bluescreenview - very useful for knowing your BSOD and more so works in finding it, even after your BSOD has passed, and you installing the software AFTER the BSOD:
http://download.cnet.com/BlueScreenView/3000-2094_4-10965136.html

As you are using my BIOS in there, too - it might be useful to add my PC specs (ie "PC specs that were used for the guide" type thing)
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Originally Posted by iwalkwithedead View Post

1] 0x7E = Corrupted OS file [Bad Video Driver]
Reinstalled, Fixed
2] 0x50 = RAM timings/Frequency unstable
Restored Defaults, Enabled X.M.P, Fixed
3] 0x1E = increase vcore
1.265 to 1.270, now going to 1.275

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yea, i have a list with codes, always handy when you run into them,

BSOD Codes for LGA 1155 Ivy Bridge
0x101 = increase vcore
0x124 = increase/decrease vcore or QPI/VTT... have to test to see which one it is
0x0A = unstable RAM/IMC, increase QPI first, if that doesn't work increase vcore
0x1E = increase vcore
0x3B = increase vcore
0x3D = increase vcore
0xD1 = QPI/VTT, increase/decrease as necessary, can also be unstable Ram, raise Ram voltage
0x9C = QPI/VTT most likely, but increasing vcore has helped in some instances
0x50 = RAM timings/Frequency or uncore multi unstable, increase RAM voltage or adjust QPI/VTT, or lower uncore if you're higher than 2x
0x109 = Not enough or too Much memory voltage
0x116 = Low IOH (NB) voltage, GPU issue (most common when running multi-GPU/overclocking GPU)
0x7E = Corrupted OS file, possibly from overclocking. Run sfc /scannow and chkdsk /r

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Thanks very much to all who contribute here, very helpful and informative.
Unfortunately I am just an old man building his first computer (bought from custom builders before) and attempting to learn overclocking for the first time. Therefore I have what I assume to be rather stupid questions, and hoping someone can help me out.
Hardware: i7-3770k, Asus P8Z77-V Pro, Crucial 16gb (2x8) 1600, Corsair AX850, Antec Kuhler H2O 620, and I am currently using an old hard drive and just the motherboard video while I am waiting to receive a Crucial M4 256gb, and an EVGA 670 FTW LE. I have the latest bios of 1708.
I followed all the settings in the OP, but I also have iGPU Voltage and iGPU Offset Voltage, which are not in the OP so I left them at offset mode and auto. No idea if that is right or not.
Two first big questions are: which temperatures do I care most about? The CPU cores seem easy to watch with HWMonitor or RealTemp, but watching CPU temp seems hard because I am not sure which to look at and HWMonitor has a problem with my setup because it always spikes to crazy high numbers. Second question is that no matter what I set CPU Voltage to manually the computer always goes 2 to 3 hundredths higher. So a manual entry in bios of 1.24 means the voltage will be 1.25 to 1.27. What am I doing wrong?

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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

Just a follow up to my post above. I apologize if what I need help with are those things where you guys get annoyed and think, just look it up stupid. I have searched for the answers and found enough contradicting information that I was hoping to get some insight.
Also I don't understand how offset voltages works for you guys. I have my system set up at 100*44 for 4400MHz and cpu manual voltage set to 1.23 and it seems to be stable so far. The actual voltage used goes to 1.256 (thus my question in the first post as to the difference) and my 4 cpu core temps are staying below 80c while my motherboard and cpu temps (according to the Asus sensor recorder) are staying below 60c on Prime95. I don't know if those are where they should be but seems OK so far.
But when I change from manual to offset mode, keeping everything else the same, and pick a +.045 offset then cpu voltage spikes to 1.384 and my temps go way up. So I guess I don't understand how you can use offsets or I have something set wrong. Anyway, any help is appreciated.


I actually saw your posts last night, but went to sleep shortly after tongue.gif

First of all welcome to OCN thumb.gif
Secondly, there is nothing to be ashamed of nor are your questions "annoying" or anything like that.

Unto your concerns:
Now that iGPU thing, is on-board graphics on your i7 - it is useful, however when you get your GTX670 in, that iGPU will become absolutely useless.
The point for iGPU is to be used for people who don't have a graphics card, or have a weak graphics card, and thus need the on-board processing power of the intel i7's one, in order to run more optimally.

A few points to make here:
Usually iGPU would come in handy, but for people like you and me, with an actual graphics card, it is thoroughly useless.
So, if you have your GTX670 installed, I suggest disabling anything iGPU related - that also includes ignoring to install VirtuMVP from asus (as that will screw around with your graphics card) - virtu is a software designed to help FPS on the intel on-board graphics, and to save energy of your system, by re-routing certain low-level graphics things to your CPU rather than your GPU. Meaning your GPU (GTX670) can stay cooler. (I should also note that virtu isn't available for all boards, but it came with mine)
On to cooling: With iGPU, when being used, will consume a little bit of volts - now when OC'ing the last thing you want is a little more volts.
Don't get me wrong there's nothing wrong with OCing with iGPU enabled, but if you don't need it, then why put extra volts inside?

Long story short disable iGPU when you get your GTX670 installed.

Now as Swag said, start with manual rather than offset.

As for your temps they are fine - but be wary of trusting that pesky ai SUIT II for motherboard temps. It is fine to an extent, but can give very odd readings like 127c for your motherboard temps.

Regarding your +0.45 offset - that's because you aren't working out the proper offset, nor know what your actual stable manual vcore is - thus with that type of offset, you might be hitting over 1.3v (if translated in manual vcore terms) and thus why you see a huge spike in temps.
As I'm sure you know, higher volts = higher temps

Hope that answers everything - and I'm glad the pictures are helping people.

Note to Swag:
Would be useful to add to the list of prgrams in the OP:
Bluescreenview - very useful for knowing your BSOD and more so works in finding it, even after your BSOD has passed, and you installing the software AFTER the BSOD:
http://download.cnet.com/BlueScreenView/3000-2094_4-10965136.html

As you are using my BIOS in there, too - it might be useful to add my PC specs (ie "PC specs that were used for the guide" type thing)

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Alright, I keep getting vcore bsod, should I go up 2notches instead of 1? lolz I'm at 1.275 now
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Alright, I keep getting vcore bsod, should I go up 2notches instead of 1? lolz I'm at 1.275 now

if all drivers and software are up-to-date and ram is on stock timings, then yes, your BSODs would be all vcore related (as long as you didn't get these on stock!)
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If it's not vcore then it's some software crap, I think that I should just format and try again.

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hay all i was told to post in here regarding my overclocking problem. im trying to get 4.5ghz. previously i was runnign prime v 25 and passed prime at 1.24 v for an 8 hour period. but i found out by a user on here that i was doing a setting a bit wrong and was using the wrong v of prime so im on to v 27.7 and have the settings correct now and have been seeing how lower i could get the v core at.so far i no my min volt to boot into windows at 4.5ghz is 1.195 and the last BSOD i had was at 1.225. left prime running last night at 1.23v woke up today prime was still runing so i stoped it.workers 1 completed 958 tests worker 4 completed 950 tests but worker 2 dropt out and only completed 210 tests and 3 seemd of dropt out but dosent say how meny tests it completed they allso both have 1 error and hardware faliur but i dont no what it is and windows seems to be frozenaswell but mouse still working and can oporate around programs that i left open.my max temp was 82c witch was 2c more then when i run prime v 25 at 1.24v im not looking for a rock solid overclock i just want my system to be stable enough to play games. i did test it for a hole day yesterday at 1.24 and there was no problems.but if i can get voltage lower i would prefer it.thanks:)
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OK here is my situation with voltages, hopefully this info will help someone figure out what I am seeing.
I got a multimeter and with the help of Stickg1, a member here who was very nice and very helpful, I figured out how to measure the vCore directly. With 1.250 set in bios and the computer at idle the meter reads almost exactly 1.25, then the second I click to start running Prime95 the meter jumped to just over 1.27. My computer is measurably increasing vCore when under load. So the software over-reports vCore at idle but is pretty close to actual when under load.

Right now I am running Prime95 at 4.5, 1.275 vCore (the first level so far that seems stable) and that is the voltage I measure at idle, but when under load the vCore goes as high as 1.308 and spends most of the time in the 1.30 range. For temps with this setup so far I have reached a max of 78, 87, 86, 78 on the four cores, and the "cpu" temp on Asus Sensor which corresponds to HWmonitor's "TMPIN3" has gone to a max of 65c. The CPUTIN in HWmonitor which corresponds to SpeedFan's "CPU" reading is obviously something else other than the CPU since it always stays low so I am ignoring those numbers.

Having done some more reading it seems 4.5 is supposed to be doable for 24/7 stability and long life. Per my first post I am still confused over temps, which ones exactly to watch and what is ok for long 24/7 life. So far we have 4.5, 1.275 which goes just above 1.3 and temps of 87 core and what I think is a CPU temp of 65. Those seem too high for a 24/7 overclock, but I am hoping you guy can let me know.

So for my setup I can't say I am running 4.5 with 1.275 vCore even though that is what is in bios and wouldn't be a bad result, I am actually running 4.5 with a 1.308. Any help or comments are appreciated.
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OK here is my situation with voltages, hopefully this info will help someone figure out what I am seeing.
I got a multimeter and with the help of Stickg1, a member here who was very nice and very helpful, I figured out how to measure the vCore directly. With 1.250 set in bios and the computer at idle the meter reads almost exactly 1.25, then the second I click to start running Prime95 the meter jumped to just over 1.27. My computer is measurably increasing vCore when under load. So the software over-reports vCore at idle but is pretty close to actual when under load.
Right now I am running Prime95 at 4.5, 1.275 vCore (the first level so far that seems stable) and that is the voltage I measure at idle, but when under load the vCore goes as high as 1.308 and spends most of the time in the 1.30 range. For temps with this setup so far I have reached a max of 78, 87, 86, 78 on the four cores, and the "cpu" temp on Asus Sensor which corresponds to HWmonitor's "TMPIN3" has gone to a max of 65c. The CPUTIN in HWmonitor which corresponds to SpeedFan's "CPU" reading is obviously something else other than the CPU since it always stays low so I am ignoring those numbers.
Having done some more reading it seems 4.5 is supposed to be doable for 24/7 stability and long life. Per my first post I am still confused over temps, which ones exactly to watch and what is ok for long 24/7 life. So far we have 4.5, 1.275 which goes just above 1.3 and temps of 87 core and what I think is a CPU temp of 65. Those seem too high for a 24/7 overclock, but I am hoping you guy can let me know.
So for my setup I can't say I am running 4.5 with 1.275 vCore even though that is what is in bios and wouldn't be a bad result, I am actually running 4.5 with a 1.308. Any help or comments are appreciated.
That vCore isn't too high, all chips are different. Mine for instance needs 1.41v for 4.5GHz ,it sucks, but it is what it is. As far as temps, you're okay up to 105C according to Intel, at that point your PC will shut off though in thermal protection. I would keep it below 90-95C.
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