Originally Posted by justanoldman
Glad so many people are helping, that is what I like about this thread. Here is my two cents.
Personally I am not a fan of software fan controls, I set everything in bios. I have heard that people are happy with fan expert and speed fan, so it is just a matter of personal choice. You can check where your fans are installed and their speed by going to bios, look at the Monitor tab, Fan Speed Monitor. That will show you the location and speed of your fans. When you know that you can proceed to Fan Speed Control and set it Manual then change both the Min and Max Duty Cycle to 100%. Then you know it is maxing itself out.
You LLC level is fine, just as the guide shows. Software readings of vCore including CPU-Z are just an estimate and they will fluctuate slightly. Only a decent multimeter will tell you your actual vCore, but you have a good mobo so don’t worry about it, you are fine as is.
Your room temp is way higher than the average person around here. Most have room temps in the low to mid 20s range. So if my room temp is 22c right now and yours is 32c, then we try to compare temps, I have to add 10c to mine to compare to yours. You are dealing with a defectively high temp chip, all Ivy chips suffer from it, and that is why people delid. You have an inexpensive cooler, and you have really high room temps. An unfortunate situation all around.
That said, too much TIM or even a very slightly poor cooler installation will cause measurable worse temps. It took me many hours of testing to find the exact right amount of TIM and right cooler placement/installation. Taking pics of your TIM fingerprint on both the chip and cooler can help you analyze your testing to find the right amount. Just keep trying different amounts of TIM, test the temps for 10 minutes, then try again.
AS5 is not great TIM but it works fine, a tube will last you plenty of applications so you can test different amounts.
Keep in mind that all Ivy chips are different. My two chips had drastictally different temps before deliding, one had a nice thin layer of glue which made it harder to delid, but it had ok temps. The other had a ton of glue, was easy to delid, but had terrible temps. You can’t direcly compare your pre-delid temps to someone else, in general you can, but not with great accuracy.
Your temps are too high now. Go back to F5 defaults, then change your bios fan profile to 100% as explaind above, start testing different TIM amounts to get the best temps possible. When you are done with that we can talk about what is next.
Okay I'll change the fan settings in BIOS and report back the changes.
For temps, I'm going by what google says the temp in my city is right now. If there's any convenient method to test the actual room temp of my room, I'll gladly do it and provide you with the exact temps.
I'll have to buy the TIM first before I can go experimenting with it. That being said, which would be the best amongst AS5, stock EVO TIM and stock 3770K TIM?
Running p95 on stock speeds, I'm hitting 70c+ on the second core and near about 70 in the third and fourth one. The first one is comparatively lower temps-wise in all situations as far as I have noticed.
Thanks a lot!
Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed
AS5 is very out-dated and not good at all to use.
And a single tube can last as long as you make it last - I have mine for over 3years now - same tube. Opened it countless times.
I would also suggest not using CPU OPT - I found that my SP120's didn't adjust at all to load and remained on full load the whole time.
Try monitoring your fan speeds via HWmonitor.
I have very limited options regarding all products and especially ones like TIM. My other option would be to use the stock TIM of the EVO if I have some left. Or the one with the 3770K if they provided any with it (didnt check).
I connected the fans to CPU_fan and CPU_opt. Will this configuration do, or do I need to connect it to some other header?
Screenshot of HWmonitor after connecting to different headers:
I can see one fan in the window, but wheres the other one? and are those fan speeds normal?
Thanks a lot!
Originally Posted by gdubc
You can get them to save but you need to apply the changes then save. So in fan expert you start with the first fan and make your changes and hit apply. Then the next fan settings and apply and so on. Then after you set and apply each fan you can save the profile under whatever name you choose. Hope this helps!
Unfortunately, Fan Xpert is not detecting the fans after I have connected them to the different headers. I'll see if I can reconfigure them in the BIOS.
Thanks a lot!
Originally Posted by Edkiefer
Well 90F is hot for room temp so that "maybe" why it seems on high side .
Those are the higher rpm versions , they should run over 2000 rpm when 100% .
Not sure why your not getting them to show up with HWmontor , both my cpu and case fan shows up in both openhardwaremonitor and HWmonitor .
The only thing with using chassis headers is you have limited manual setting in bios (it defaults to starting at 40c and you can't alter it ) . I ended up setting mine to turbo ,worked better . That is the thing with CPU fans they should realy be PWM 4 pin IMO .
The grease shouldn't make that much of difference few c at most as long as its ok, not dried out . more important is how you seat it and apply it .
Your probably running pretty low rpm on the SP my guess as it won't raise till you hit 40c on MB sensor .
Edit: the OPt fan is the second option CPU fan header (upper right hand corner I beleive) ,so a 3wire here I think gives 100% ).
Maybe check in bios at what fan speeds are , how the 2 fans compare in rpm .
Edit2 : Ahh, sorry HWmonitor does not show fans speed properly . I use openhardwaremonitor which I am positive does . I really thought HWmonitor did to but just rechecked )
In past I have used speedfan, that can adjust fans in software and should also display fan speeds .
I'm going with google for temps and havent measured them myself. tell me a way to measure them and I'll provide you with the actual ones.
The fan that is being detected by HWMonitor (see screenshot) is running at over 2000rpm. Its being detected after I changed the headers. I have no clue as to why the other one wont be detected.
Does it mean that I'm losing out on something because my fans dont have four pin headers?
ASUS applications reported temps to be 70c-71c when running prime95 at 4.4GHz at 1.205v. Why didnt the fan max out then?
Thanks a lot! EDIT
: I'm hitting 75c on the second core at stock speeds while running prime95. That is highly unusual right?