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was looking for something like this. But I found if I deleted the .ini file after every bios change. I have no problems opening it.


Run 4.8Ghz at a bit higher than what I should be running it at. For stability stake. Vcore readout from mobo is ~ 1.326V. (I"m assuming that's including the Ultra High LLC and offset)
1600 CL9 ram running at 2000 11-11-11-34 @ 1.556V

Only I just have to find where the instability is coming from. PC randomly freezes but Prime95 doesn't catch anything. I'm betting it's ram though. I already upped the vcore up +0.15V from what I should need.

Anyone know if Intel's 1.575 limit includes the offset or not. I would like to just set my ram to 1.575 and call it a day, instead of stress testing after each 0.05V increase
I would put memory back down to 1333/1600 until I finalized OC .
And you can run memory to 1.65v w/o issue ,some run it higher but 1.65 is general max memory manufactures go .
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If you mean the memory voltage ! I run my memory with a voltage of 1,675V and i have no problem with it.

it is NOT recommended to do that.
1.65v is really the most any RAM should run at.
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it is NOT recommended to do that.
1.65v is really the most any RAM should run at.

Intel's warranty only covers 1.57 right? That's voltage guide in the OP says it's safe to go up to 1.7V. But then why is Intel's voltage so low?

And how does Intel know if you exceeded 1.57? I tested mines at 1.6, but brought it down to 1.55V.

At 1.65V I could run my ram at 2400Mhz.
At 1.6V I could run it at 2133MHz


For a 24/7 (and I literary mean 24/7) I chose 2000 @ 1.55 (going to reattempt getting it lower)

Should I go for 2133 or 2400?
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Intel's warranty only covers 1.57 right? That's voltage guide in the OP says it's safe to go up to 1.7V. But then why is Intel's voltage so low?

And how does Intel know if you exceeded 1.57? I tested mines at 1.6, but brought it down to 1.55V.

At 1.65V I could run my ram at 2400Mhz.
At 1.6V I could run it at 2133MHz


For a 24/7 (and I literary mean 24/7) I chose 2000 @ 1.55 (going to reattempt getting it lower)

Should I go for 2133 or 2400?

Intel won't even allow you to OC - that voids the warranty too.
1.57v possibly on AUTO voltage and AUTO speeds etc.
End of the day for ram - you should listen to the RAM manufacturer - ram has to run. Sure the voltage is important for the IMC on the CPU, but when it comes down to it - the RAM has to run and be stable, in order to communicate in the first place with the CPU.

Run at 1.65v @ 2400mhz.
A LOT of ram don't like over 1.65v - is is like going over 1.55v on the CPU - there's no DIRECT proof but indirect proof showing degradation in chips over time.
1.65v is WIDELY used in RAM by manufacturers who:
-Cut costs
-Have a really low timing/speed

ie. 2400mhz @ 1.65v is almost a norm
Better 2400 ram sets will run at 1.55/1.5v

Or
1600/1866mhz ram that runs at CL4 or so might require 1.65v at stock from the manufacturer.
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All of my 3930k build´s run since 2011 with 1,65V+ memory voltage, no problems.
Intel spec is ok, but overclocking is all out of spec and iám sur nothing will happen with this voltage in the future years. 1,65V is 24/7.
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Intel won't even allow you to OC - that voids the warranty too.
1.57v possibly on AUTO voltage and AUTO speeds etc.
End of the day for ram - you should listen to the RAM manufacturer - ram has to run. Sure the voltage is important for the IMC on the CPU, but when it comes down to it - the RAM has to run and be stable, in order to communicate in the first place with the CPU.

Run at 1.65v @ 2400mhz.
A LOT of ram don't like over 1.65v - is is like going over 1.55v on the CPU - there's no DIRECT proof but indirect proof showing degradation in chips over time.
1.65v is WIDELY used in RAM by manufacturers who:
-Cut costs
-Have a really low timing/speed

ie. 2400mhz @ 1.65v is almost a norm
Better 2400 ram sets will run at 1.55/1.5v

Or
1600/1866mhz ram that runs at CL4 or so might require 1.65v at stock from the manufacturer.


Alright then. 2133 @ 1.6V it is. (I don't want to chance running the ram. It's only a 70$ kit)


Intel doesn't support any overclocking at all? So they are just charging a premium for -k cpus and then not cover overclocking, unless you buy an additional warranty?
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Alright then. 2133 @ 1.6V it is. (I don't want to chance running the ram. It's only a 70$ kit)


Intel doesn't support any overclocking at all? So they are just charging a premium for -k cpus and then not cover overclocking, unless you buy an additional warranty?

well it's a little bit hit and miss:
http://www.overclock.net/t/388605/does-overclocking-void-intel-warranty

You have to be using a stock cooler etc - it's like anything in the world - modify it from its original state and you are in theory not using as the manufacturer intended.
Have an unlock K chip allows you to OC - but intel is NOT responsible to replace that chip if you: burn it, degrade it etc.
It would be then in their right and thus by law able to reject any warranty claims. EVEN IF the K version is specifically designed to have an OPEN multiplier for you to fiddle with.

As for your ram what timings you running it at, what make is it etc.
2133 and 2400 is very fast regardless and probably more than you'de ever notice, over 1600, unless you bench or use certain apps/games (apparently bf4 benefits from faster ram, but I'm still dubious about their claims)
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Alright then. 2133 @ 1.6V it is. (I don't want to chance running the ram. It's only a 70$ kit)


Intel doesn't support any overclocking at all? So they are just charging a premium for -k cpus and then not cover overclocking, unless you buy an additional warranty?

Just curious , What ram are you using with such big overhead on OC , going from 1600 >2400 ?
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well it's a little bit hit and miss:
http://www.overclock.net/t/388605/does-overclocking-void-intel-warranty

You have to be using a stock cooler etc - it's like anything in the world - modify it from its original state and you are in theory not using as the manufacturer intended.
Have an unlock K chip allows you to OC - but intel is NOT responsible to replace that chip if you: burn it, degrade it etc.
It would be then in their right and thus by law able to reject any warranty claims. EVEN IF the K version is specifically designed to have an OPEN multiplier for you to fiddle with.

As for your ram what timings you running it at, what make is it etc.
2133 and 2400 is very fast regardless and probably more than you'de ever notice, over 1600, unless you bench or use certain apps/games (apparently bf4 benefits from faster ram, but I'm still dubious about their claims)

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Just curious , What ram are you using with such big overhead on OC , going from 1600 >2400 ?

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX41030

Got that ram for ~70$last year. From amazon. My timing are 2000 9-10-9-30 @ 1.6v.

I read something where they said for Has well CPUs that anything lower than 1866 would affect performance in real life applications. And for Ivy, 1600 is the absolute minimum. I'll update this with the source as soon as I find it

Apparently 2133 is supposed to offer the most bang for buck

Here's the Ivy one, there a Haswell one too where they say 1600 should be avoided
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6372/memory-performance-16gb-ddr31333-to-ddr32400-on-ivy-bridge-igp-with-gskill/14

Unless of course they are lying. But it's Anandtech
Edited by Roy360 - 1/8/14 at 9:49am
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http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX41030

Got that ram for ~70$last year. From amazon. My timing are 2000 9-10-9-30 @ 1.6v.

I read something where they said for Has well CPUs that anything lower than 1866 would affect performance in real life applications. And for Ivy, 1600 is the absolute minimum. I'll update this with the source as soon as I find it

Apparently 2133 is supposed to offer the most bang for buck

Here's the Ivy one, there a Haswell one too where they say 1600 should be avoided
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6372/memory-performance-16gb-ddr31333-to-ddr32400-on-ivy-bridge-igp-with-gskill/14

Unless of course they are lying. But it's Anandtech

I highly doubt that the 1600 was the "avoided" one - more like the 1333 one - that's because the difference, back a year ago between 1333 and 1600 was minimal.
But the difference between 1600 and 1866+ was huge (not so much nowadays)

Are you prime stable with that huge OC?
-30 timing is very loose I must say.
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