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fair enough - but are you stable?
I mean I can run my un-willing corsair vengeance at 2100, but it BSODs or even at 1866 and it fails in prime.


I can run prime95 for hours, or memtest.

But certain programs like CPUZ Validate and Coretemp cause my CPU overclock to become unstable. (PC doesn't crash but runs very very slowly.)

CPUZ Validate will validate, and send me an e-mail, but shortly after opening my browser to show the results, it freezes...but the mem overclock by itself is fine. While be re-installing Windows soon,
Edited by Roy360 - 1/8/14 at 3:45pm
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I can run prime95 for hours, or memtest.

But certain programs like CPUZ Validate and Coretemp cause my CPU overclock to become unstable. (PC doesn't crash but runs very very slowly.)

CPUZ Validate will validate, and send me an e-mail, but shortly after opening my browser to show the results, it freezes...but the mem overclock by itself is fine. While be re-installing Windows soon,

doesn't seem stable to me if that happens...!
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doesn't seem stable to me if that happens...!

Your are probably right. Dropped my ram down to 1866. And reduced the voltage back to 1.55. (I don\t want to go pass this for 4 sticks.)

1866 still gives me similar benchmarks so I"ll keep it there.

And all there's left to do is see if I get another crash when I validate. Just to make sure, I need LLC even if I set an offset right?


....

and she runs!
I'm getting I wasn't supplying enough volts for the 2133 and 2000 setups. Part of me wants to go back into the bios and try to get 2000 working again.....
http://valid.canardpc.com/slj5nr


and she crashes again... I'm starting to think this has to do with transitions between states.

Am I supposed to turn off LLC after setting an offset?


went to manual vcore and no crashes, even on 2000.
Edited by Roy360 - 1/8/14 at 5:15pm
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Your are probably right. Dropped my ram down to 1866. And reduced the voltage back to 1.55. (I don\t want to go pass this for 4 sticks.)

1866 still gives me similar benchmarks so I"ll keep it there.

And all there's left to do is see if I get another crash when I validate. Just to make sure, I need LLC even if I set an offset right?


....

and she runs!
I'm getting I wasn't supplying enough volts for the 2133 and 2000 setups. Part of me wants to go back into the bios and try to get 2000 working again.....
http://valid.canardpc.com/slj5nr


and she crashes again... I'm starting to think this has to do with transitions between states.

Am I supposed to turn off LLC after setting an offset?


went to manual vcore and no crashes, even on 2000.
no , you leave LLC as it was with manual voltage , offset just lets voltage to scale down when not needed at lower clocks .

If you ever do lower LLC ,then you would have to raise voltage to CPU so you get same voltage at load .

So offset you just set the amount, leave all other settings the same .
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no , you leave LLC as it was with manual voltage , offset just lets voltage to scale down when not needed at lower clocks .

If you ever do lower LLC ,then you would have to raise voltage to CPU so you get same voltage at load .

So offset you just set the amount, leave all other settings the same .

thanks, then I wonder my PC freezes all the time.

I just set it to auto, and now I"m fine. Going to call it a day now.

Got a free 1GHz on the CPU and 400MHz on the ram. temps are slightly temp that on manual but they should go done once I install that Black Ice radiator. Or if I decide to de-lid my CPU. Anyone know if you HAVE to you Coollabs Ultra? Would the Noctua silver paste that comes with their heatsyncs good enough?
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thanks, then I wonder my PC freezes all the time.

I just set it to auto, and now I"m fine. Going to call it a day now.

Got a free 1GHz on the CPU and 400MHz on the ram. temps are slightly temp that on manual but they should go done once I install that Black Ice radiator. Or if I decide to de-lid my CPU. Anyone know if you HAVE to you Coollabs Ultra? Would the Noctua silver paste that comes with their heatsyncs good enough?
be careful with auto voltage once you raise other settings, like 45x and LLC , it will go way up on load then , better to just lower multiplier a notch or two IMO .

And as i mention before do the CPU OC first with ram at stock clocks, then once that is squared away and stable move to memory OC .
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no , you leave LLC as it was with manual voltage , offset just lets voltage to scale down when not needed at lower clocks .

If you ever do lower LLC ,then you would have to raise voltage to CPU so you get same voltage at load .

So offset you just set the amount, leave all other settings the same .
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be careful with auto voltage once you raise other settings, like 45x and LLC , it will go way up on load then , better to just lower multiplier a notch or two IMO .

And as i mention before do the CPU OC first with ram at stock clocks, then once that is squared away and stable move to memory OC .


What would be a reliable way to check how much voltage auto is giving after LLC? Ai suite and CPU Z report a Vcore of 1.390(Prime95) when I set it to auto. but I guess I could go back to figuing out what kind of offset I need

I"m not going to touch it for now, atleast until I get a GPU. I"m starting to thinking using the iGPU while overclocking isn't such a good idea

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So offset you just set the amount, leave all other settings the same .

Doesn't that I mean I could just off LLC and use a big offset? I ask because with LLC and offset on, my voltage varies between 4 different values
Edited by Roy360 - 1/8/14 at 8:09pm
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I seem to be having a little problem with my current config. Thought I'd step up my output for some extra juice in BF4, though once I go past a certain point, everything seems to fail on me. Here's the problem. In the testing config, when it hits that fifteen minute mark, the temps sky rocket between 95c and 105c, thus causing the CPU to throttle from 4.6GHz down to 3.8GHz, rendering the stress invalid. I wouldn't even be able to increase the voltage if it was unstable, as it currently is, it seems to be too much for my cooling. I'm wondering what I could do to achieve at least 4.6GHz, where I'd love to be sitting at 4.8GHz. I did a little testing, and with my stable config, I get a high seventies frame rate, but when I leave almost everything on auto, I'm sitting in the high nineties and temps are acceptable.

System:
Intel 3770k
Corsair H100i
Asus Maximus V Gene
Corsair 1866 Platinum
EVGA 670GTX 4GB SC+

Configurations:

Stable: 45 x 100 // 1.3v // 80c // 45 minute prime (stable enough to use heavily)
Testing: 46 x 100 // 1.375v // 89c // 15 minute prime.
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105c on the h100i?
Make sure it's getting enough power and ramps with load. Also check it's seated properly. If not, then rma the cooler
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What would be a reliable way to check how much voltage auto is giving after LLC? Ai suite and CPU Z report a Vcore of 1.390(Prime95) when I set it to auto. but I guess I could go back to figuing out what kind of offset I need

I"m not going to touch it for now, atleast until I get a GPU. I"m starting to thinking using the iGPU while overclocking isn't such a good idea
Doesn't that I mean I could just off LLC and use a big offset? I ask because with LLC and offset on, my voltage varies between 4 different values
Yes, use any software to monitor voltage under load , CPU-Z is fine .

You maybe could use lower LLC and just compensate with Vcore till you get what ever voltage is needed to be stable .
There is a lot of controversial veiwpoints on this . I have seen reports that a very high LLC settings is not good , meaning as far as voltage spikes goes there greater variance between low load and high load (this also probably depends on MB) .
The reason to raise it is the greater the load the more voltage droops . Intel designed it with certain level of droop is good but when you OC and raise voltage it droops much more .
Also having slightly higher LLC is easier to set up voltages as the bios setting will be closer to what load is . I would use a LLC were its not overshooting but not drooping to much , basically what guide says .
It also depends on the OC if your not OC high or should say low OC then LLC won't be needed , but this guide is for 4.5+ ghz .
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