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Wow thanks for the tip Slink think take a note of that when I get back on RAM OC.

tried so much yesterday, following the guide and having exactly the same settings, but just too many BSODs.

Today I tried again, "accidentally" chose Asus OC Tuner and PC shut off, I thought it would come back but it didnt after waiting 2-3mins, couldnt turn it back on so cleared CMOS.
after resetting CMOS, I tried to aim for 45 again but this time I followed a small "inquery" onr of the posters near the first page of this thread mentioned, about messing with LLC and all that is really only good for the Extreme overclockers aiming for 47+ .

So I am right now trying (with the cleared CMOS)
Currently:
@4.5Ghz (well, 45x99.98 according to CPUZ, 4498.95Mhz)
Bios CPU Manual - 1.310v
PLL - 1.7
Everything else is pretty much on Auto

and running P95 for about 20mins now (has been running longer than it ever did using this Thread's settings)
CPUZ: 1.312-1.320v
Coretemp: VID-1.301-1.306
Temps: Max: 73-78-79-72c

good? bad? CPU voltage too high for 45?
Edited by HyeVltg3 - 2/27/16 at 5:23pm
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Dont mean to double post.
Update:
Not sure how stable my ram is, but followed another RAM OC guide and so far it is stable at 2200Mhz was able to run a few runs in SuperPI, passed in 7m30sec about.
Got back onto CPU OC, so far really good.
Testing Vcore @1.320v (think I'll post a pic later just for future people that like to see OCs with what settings and numbers they chose, instead of just reading "@x.yGhz on x.yzV" =P)

So atm set Cpu Voltage = 1.320 (Manual).
Been running Prime96 on custom Blend since 3:23am (atm 2:11pm)
Weirdly in CPUZ my voltage is 1.328-1.336 (think my LLC is UH) 1.336 more often, changes to 1.328 for MORE intense moments (Can only tell by the sound of my fans, the rev down on 1.336 which correlates with the temp at the time, lower. then when temps go back up 1.328, could something be drawing power away? fans? PSU is Corsair AX850)
CoreTemp VID = 1.3010-1.3060 (mainly 1.3010)

Going to test Offset next.
My offset would be +0.019, right?
1.320-1.3010= 0.019
Also tested OCCT, my VID there can sometimes reach 1.31v ...no idea if CoreTemp is more accurate than OCCT, mainly because 1.3010 VID is a constant kept seeing it after I passed 1.3v in bios.
Still can anyone tell me if 1.32v is too high for 4.5Ghz (keep asking, but so far no response, haha)
At the moment my Core Temp Max = 80-89-87-81
I am hoping the Core#1 and #2 temps get to low 80s.
comfortable with that. Dont like it getting near 90c, mainly because its winter and Amb temp is 16-18c probably colder with my door open.
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post #6923 of 7033
i'd suggest re-appling the thermal paste. personally i like to avoid anything over 75c but will take ~78c w/o going over 80c for more than a few seconds while stressing.

you may have either too much or not enough TIM and was able to get away with it while on stock settings. it seems with ivy that when you start going over 1.32v the temps can shoot up almost exponentially (well, because power draw increases exponentially). anything below 1.45 is "safe" as long as those temps are tame.
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Originally Posted by HyeVltg3 View Post

Dont mean to double post.
Update:
Not sure how stable my ram is, but followed another RAM OC guide and so far it is stable at 2200Mhz was able to run a few runs in SuperPI, passed in 7m30sec about.
Got back onto CPU OC, so far really good.
Testing Vcore @1.320v (think I'll post a pic later just for future people that like to see OCs with what settings and numbers they chose, instead of just reading "@x.yGhz on x.yzV" =P)

So atm set Cpu Voltage = 1.320 (Manual).
Been running Prime96 on custom Blend since 3:23am (atm 2:11pm)
Weirdly in CPUZ my voltage is 1.328-1.336 (think my LLC is UH) 1.336 more often, changes to 1.328 for MORE intense moments (Can only tell by the sound of my fans, the rev down on 1.336 which correlates with the temp at the time, lower. then when temps go back up 1.328, could something be drawing power away? fans? PSU is Corsair AX850)
CoreTemp VID = 1.3010-1.3060 (mainly 1.3010)

Going to test Offset next.
My offset would be +0.019, right?
1.320-1.3010= 0.019
Also tested OCCT, my VID there can sometimes reach 1.31v ...no idea if CoreTemp is more accurate than OCCT, mainly because 1.3010 VID is a constant kept seeing it after I passed 1.3v in bios.
Still can anyone tell me if 1.32v is too high for 4.5Ghz (keep asking, but so far no response, haha)
At the moment my Core Temp Max = 80-89-87-81
I am hoping the Core#1 and #2 temps get to low 80s.
comfortable with that. Dont like it getting near 90c, mainly because its winter and Amb temp is 16-18c probably colder with my door open.

Those temps are a little high for me, but if your on air then I believe that is normal. I water cool my CPU (and soon the MB chipset) and I have noticed a lower high temp max when I have run my tests.

FYI, a vcore of 1.32 is really good for that OC on an IVY-e.

I am not sure on your chip and MB but I was told to use either manual vcore setting or offset, but not both. I am not sure on this so hopefully someone else can chime in.
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Would it make sense to sand down the CPU and polish the cooling surface of the cooler? I'm thinking that the phase change head should have more potential...
post #6926 of 7033
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i'd suggest re-appling the thermal paste. personally i like to avoid anything over 75c but will take ~78c w/o going over 80c for more than a few seconds while stressing.

you may have either too much or not enough TIM and was able to get away with it while on stock settings. it seems with ivy that when you start going over 1.32v the temps can shoot up almost exponentially (well, because power draw increases exponentially). anything below 1.45 is "safe" as long as those temps are tame.
Yes, I would like to change the TIM but maybe after a bit more testing. high 80c seems a bit normal for Stressing, especially on Air (Hyper Evo) from all the different posts I've read. going to finish this Prime 95 run in a few mins, woot 12hr run! (in 20mins)
Then I'll play some Withcher 3 and Rise of the tomb raider for a few and see how that goes, they are the only two most "intensive" games I have atm.
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Those temps are a little high for me, but if your on air then I believe that is normal. I water cool my CPU

FYI, a vcore of 1.32 is really good for that OC on an IVY-e.

I am not sure on your chip and MB but I was told to use either manual vcore setting or offset, but not both. I am not sure on this so hopefully someone else can chime in.
CPU: i5-3570K
Cooling: Air, Hyper Evo 212, Just one fan in Pull, other end is pointed at Back fan that's pulling air INTO the case, Top Case fan is Exhaust.
1.32 still good if not Ivy-E? you're making me scared if 1.32 is "normal" for Ivy EXTREME processor, arent they ment to be the AMD-like power draw-ers in the Intel line
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Would it make sense to sand down the CPU and polish the cooling surface of the cooler? I'm thinking that the phase change head should have more potential...
Just a heads up, dont know if you care, sanding or any sort of wear on the IHS will void warranty, Intel wont even take it. happened to me, was using IC Diamond TIM and it fadded out the markings on the IHS and Intel would not RMA the chip (if no one's been keeping up, fried my previous 3570K, scared me off OC-ing for a good two years)
Couldnt you just Delid if you're fine with voiding warranty.

Side-Note: Is it normal if in P95, some cores are a Test ahead or behind?
C0 is on Test 7. C1 is on Test 4, C2 is on Test 5, C3 is on Test 6
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Great.
thought I was stable at 4.5 @+0.020 offset.
But I checked Event Viewer, and see a few WHEA Errors.

Been bumping voltages and checking, I'm at 1.4v !!! and not seeing any for now but getting a bit scared as temps are hitting 92c.

Please help, been googling this all morning. will post my bios screenshots when I get back home, left PC on Idle.
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Great.
thought I was stable at 4.5 @+0.020 offset.
But I checked Event Viewer, and see a few WHEA Errors.

Been bumping voltages and checking, I'm at 1.4v !!! and not seeing any for now but getting a bit scared as temps are hitting 92c.

Please help, been googling this all morning. will post my bios screenshots when I get back home, left PC on Idle.
TBH it sounds like you want to push this chip till it fails. After that I hope you have a back up. Note that not every chip can achieve greatness no matter how much you tweak and tune the settings. At some point your CPU will fail if you keep trying to push beyond what it can actually handle.
I would back off with temps that high but that is me.

When I first started OCing I was warned about the safe limits on my chip. I stuck with those, maybe when I am more financially abundant I will push whatever beyond those limits.
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if the temps are high because of voltage (like 1.4) back down to 4.4Ghz or put some water on that.
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Currently at +0.060 (1.361v)
I never said I was staying at 1.4v, Home now, did a quick 5-10min test at 1.4v temps climbed near 96c O_O
reboot, knocked offset from 0.095 to 0.060 going to test again.

But in my honest opinion I have never been gaming and seen my CPU hit >80% Usage. so I dont ever think I'll see +90c temps, maybe high 70s, low 80s. I dont game for like 5hrs+ (dont have the time for that haha, work work work play sleep work work work)

But I mainly wanted to know more opinions on 1.4v for x45 is that just bad chip or its in the ball park of pretty normal on Air, considering temps factor into OC stability, I'm sure the high temps sway some factor in getting stable, from all the tips I've read thus far.

temps can be managed if I get a AIO Liquid cpu cooler. Can only fit a 120mm rad in the case's back, not enough space up top for a 240mm rad + two 120mm fans. Mid-Tower, bad choice on my end, mobo is right close to the top fans, like I only have about 26-29mm of space between edge of mobo and case, just enough to fit a standard 120mm fan,tightly.

So far havent seen any WHEA errors. very happy. I'm at 0.060 because pervious testing went from my old "stable" P95 no-errors (but WHEA), 0.020 up notch by notch to 0.050 where it was 11pm last night and I HAD to sleep. tested at 1.4 (0.095) this morning out of curiosity for the brief moments between coffee and getting ready to leave, haha and saw no WHEA errors, so asked if those were "ok" voltages.

Thank you looniam for basically answering my query on if 1.4v is bad/good. So its fine, but my temps are bad, hence I should water. ...correct?
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