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Time to delid, check out my results in my sig running (iGPU) an air cooler! I'm going to OC tonight now that I have so much more headroom do to the delidding, trust me it sounds hard but really isn't as hard as it sounds. That's just your fear kicking in, don't let fear win you over! My advice use that very thin double sided shavers blade that has cutouts in center, it sliced through the glue like it was butter. You can get them at any pharmacy, there used in the old fashion shavers.
Does updating your BIOS version change much of your overclocking headroom?

hehe good luck bro!

In other news Swag:
4.5 stable for the time being:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1320660/need-help-with-running-a-stable-system-on-stock-clocks-prime95-failing/30#post_18493218
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i remember mrtoyotaco saying he couldnt even change pll
to anything else then 1.8V..
and someone told me with higher oc's, to leave it on 1.8,
only reason why peeps change pll, is to make oc more stable(sometimes)
and to get(a bit) lower temps, but you dont have that problem smile.gif
1.3-1.35V vcore, is considered safe..
i dont think running upto 1.4V vcore would be a problem,
its still long way from highest vcore intel says, 1.52V
but you know how is goes, some say stay below 1.3V,
others say 1.45V should still be fine..guess its somewhere in the middle of that..lol
for me personally, a daily oc 1.3-1.35V vcore is good, with 4.6-4.7ghz

Well I already tried 4.7GHz @1.35 Vcore using IBT and screen went black, my PLL is at 1.7V, should I change PLL to 1.8V so I can keep my Vcore below 1.35 Vcore?
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Well I already tried 4.7GHz @1.35 Vcore using IBT and screen went black, my PLL is at 1.7V, should I change PLL to 1.8V so I can keep my Vcore below 1.35 Vcore?

As far as i know, the 2 are not related,
its not like if you up your pll, you'll get lower vcore..

its trial and error to get the best settings,
i got it down to 1.5V with oc's up to 4.5-4.6ghz,
only got a tip from someone when i went up
to 4.8-4.9ghz to set pll on 1.8V again..

you prolly just need a bit more vcore,
dont have many examples for 4.7ghz tho..

i run 101blck and 46x multi which get me close to 4.7ghz,
but needs the vcore for 4.6..
only upped ram voltage a bit, 1.520V instead of 1.5V default

maybe a idea to use..

using blck with 4.7 or higher didnt work for me tho,
at least not very easy..
and, some chips need more vcore for oc's then others, mine isnt a good one,
already needed 1.420V vcore to make 4.8ghz 24H prime stable,
compared to others not very good..
Edited by VonDutch - 10/31/12 at 4:41am
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Hello,
I followed the guide and I set the multipler to 48 and the CPU Voltage ► Offset Mode ► Auto, and in windows vcore in full load is 1,549, cpuVID 1.3010. Not too much the vcore?
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Hello,
I followed the guide and I set the multipler to 48 and the CPU Voltage ► Offset Mode ► Auto, and in windows vcore in full load is 1,549, cpuVID 1.3010. Not too much the vcore?

that's way too much....what's your temps?
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Hello,
I followed the guide and I set the multipler to 48 and the CPU Voltage ► Offset Mode ► Auto, and in windows vcore in full load is 1,549, cpuVID 1.3010. Not too much the vcore?

if you use offset, and auto, your system decides what voltage to run,
and most of the time its way to high..
1.549V...omg
correct me if im wrong, but..did the guide say use offset and leave it on auto?

you need to do some more "work" to get offset to work right,
vcore - vid=offset
others here can help you with that, im not a asus user ..lol
bit more info would help tho, what processor do you have,
programs you use to monitor with, temps etc etc..
Edited by VonDutch - 10/31/12 at 6:22am
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Swag - I need your very much valued advice on what offset to go for:

Readings at 100% load:

VID: 1.2209 (more often it's 09) & 1.2260
Vcore: (fluctuates, but mainly at 72) - 1.264 & 1.272

I presume I should go for:
1.272 - 1.2209 = + 0.0511 offset

But what would you say?

I'm now 24hr stable on 4.5ghz biggrin.gif!




EDIT:
My idle (no load) - voltage for VID & vcore:
vid = 1.2209
vcore: 1.264

P95 is now stopped smile.gif

EDIT:
I went for +0.045

Logic:
BIOS vcore + idle is 1.264
VID seemed to be more prominent at 1.2209

thus:
1.264-1.2209 = + 0.0431

But again, I'm up for suggestions here.
Currently on offset - whilst p95 is running are:
vid: 1.2260 & 1.2209
vcore: 1.280 & 1.272 & 1.264
Edited by Totally Dubbed - 10/31/12 at 11:58am
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Swag - I need your very much valued advice on what offset to go for:
Readings at 100% load:
VID: 1.2209 (more often it's 09) & 1.2260
Vcore: (fluctuates, but mainly at 72) - 1.264 & 1.272
I presume I should go for:
1.272 - 1.2209 = + 0.0511 offset
But what would you say?
I'm now 24hr stable on 4.5ghz biggrin.gif! Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

i know youre asking Swag but,

if you calculated that like this,
lowest voltages, 1.264 - 1.2209 = 0.043
highest voltages 1.272 - 1.2260 = 0.046

0.045V offset prolly would have been enough already,
instead of 0.0511..

i lower it till it gets unstable again, then up 1 or 2 notches smile.gif
gratz on the 24H stable thumb.gif
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As far as i know, the 2 are not related,
its not like if you up your pll, you'll get lower vcore..
its trial and error to get the best settings,
i got it down to 1.5V with oc's up to 4.5-4.6ghz,
only got a tip from someone when i went up
to 4.8-4.9ghz to set pll on 1.8V again..
you prolly just need a bit more vcore,
dont have many examples for 4.7ghz tho..
i run 101blck and 46x multi which get me close to 4.7ghz,
but needs the vcore for 4.6..
only upped ram voltage a bit, 1.520V instead of 1.5V default

maybe a idea to use..
using blck with 4.7 or higher didnt work for me tho,
at least not very easy..
and, some chips need more vcore for oc's then others, mine isnt a good one,
already needed 1.420V vcore to make 4.8ghz 24H prime stable,
compared to others not very good..

My mistake I thought PLL improved stability when overclocking, just so you know I won't be pushing more than 1.4 Vcore unless it's safe to do so and temps are not to high. I already set the Vcore to 1.35V, should I try 4.8GHz at 1.35V? Perhaps my board doesn't like 4.7GHZ?
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My mistake I thought PLL improved stability when overclocking, just so you know I won't be pushing more than 1.4 Vcore unless it's safe to do so and temps are not to high. I already set the Vcore to 1.35V, should I try 4.8GHz at 1.35V? Perhaps my board doesn't like 4.7GHZ?

youre right about that, sometimes a lower pll can stabilize a oc,
but not lower youre vcore doing so, thats what i know ..

personally i like to stay in the 1.3-1.35V vcore zone,
for daily oc's that is, if it comes to benching and see what
oc's i can do with my chip, i go up to 1.45-1.490 no problem..
i dont have temps to consider so..

ran 1.850V with that 5.5ghz ..and some other (to) high voltages on air,
my "BamBam" is still alive and kicking, no damage, no degradation whats so ever biggrin.gif
time will tell i guess..

o, keep a eye on Hokies83, hes running 5.1ghz with 1.55V vcore 24/7
when he doesnt show up one of these days, you know thats to much ...lol tongue.gif
Edited by VonDutch - 10/31/12 at 1:47pm
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