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Thanks truckerguy I appreciate your input and thanks to everyone else for your advice
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A 1090t at 4ghz will handle those just fine.

Incorrect.

I had a x6 AMD and it was at 3.9GHz and bottle necked my two 6950s. so those GPU's would be even worse.

Also I do believe your current cpu is better then anything AMD has to offer currently.

Not saying go Intel but thats what I did to release my beasts and I never looked back. I love AMD but Intel just offered a better option.
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Im glad you having good luck with intel, my experiences have been really bad, my first exoerience was p3 then downgraded to P4, just recently I got a new company laptop with a i5 2520m processor, when I switch it on I have time to go shower and make a cup of coffee before it's ready for me start doing anything, I've put a link below to the laptop just so anyone else doesn't make the same mistake!!

http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/latitude-e6430/pd?oc=l0864305&model_id=latitude-e6430&
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Im glad you having good luck with intel, my experiences have been really bad, my first exoerience was p3 then downgraded to P4, just recently I got a new company laptop with a i5 2520m processor, when I switch it on I have time to go shower and make a cup of coffee before it's ready for me start doing anything, I've put a link below to the laptop just so anyone else doesn't make the same mistake!!
http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/latitude-e6430/pd?oc=l0864305&model_id=latitude-e6430&

This is not luck. The Pentium 3 & Pentium 4s were inferior to AMD offerings at the time. A dell laptop, probably loading various work communication software from a slow hard drive, is if course going to take a long time to start up. This has more to do with hard drive speed/programs being loaded than processor.

Unlike the Pentium 3/4 era, now AMD CPUs are slower than Intel CPUs. Again, this is not 'luck.' It is exactly the performance experience one would expect. If you want the fastest feeling computer, you get first: an SSD, so you're now slowed down by hard drive speed. After that you get the fastest processor with the right number of cores for your budget. Nowadays, that's usually Intel.

Now I'm not telling you to upgrade to an Intel processor - you have to take into account cost, meaning a new motherboard. In your case a switch to Intel would cost $275 at the minimum, more realistically $350 or so. And your current processor is still pretty good.

But don't assume that because Intel processors seemed slower back when benchmarks said they were slower, you won't have 'luck' with them now that benchmarks (and a huge body of user experience here at OCN) say they are faster.
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This is not luck. The Pentium 3 & Pentium 4s were inferior to AMD offerings at the time. A dell laptop, probably loading various work communication software from a slow hard drive, is if course going to take a long time to start up. This has more to do with hard drive speed/programs being loaded than processor.
Unlike the Pentium 3/4 era, now AMD CPUs are slower than Intel CPUs. Again, this is not 'luck.' It is exactly the performance experience one would expect. If you want the fastest feeling computer, you get first: an SSD, so you're now slowed down by hard drive speed. After that you get the fastest processor with the right number of cores for your budget. Nowadays, that's usually Intel.
Now I'm not telling you to upgrade to an Intel processor - you have to take into account cost, meaning a new motherboard. In your case a switch to Intel would cost $275 at the minimum, more realistically $350 or so. And your current processor is still pretty good.
But don't assume that because Intel processors seemed slower back when benchmarks said they were slower, you won't have 'luck' with them now that benchmarks (and a huge body of user experience here at OCN) say they are faster.

Very true, I suppose I am just so use to hearing that Intel is so vastly superior that I expected the laptop to atleast compete with my AMD setup for basic stuff, but like you say, a dell laptop for work probably has an unbalanced setup that doesn't let the processor workit's magic.

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Very true, I suppose I am just so use to hearing that Intel is so vastly superior that I expected the laptop to atleast compete with my AMD setup for basic stuff, but like you say, a dell laptop for work probably has an unbalanced setup that doesn't let the processor workit's magic.
Anyway thanks everyone

Well that and laptop i5s are pretty underwhelming dual-cores, unlike the desktop quad-cores. I actually like AMD's laptop processors, largely because of their integrated graphics, though there aren't many of them. Laptops are... laptops though. Particularly because of their hard drives, they always seem slow as molasses.

I wish I had a good answer for your upgrade urge, but you seem to have everything covered. Maybe a new chair or a secondary monitor for looking up whatever/skyping during games?
    
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Given that you have a 120hz monitor, I would recommend a 2500k. Regardless of how much better PD ends up being over BD, it won't be better than SB in single threaded apps. The AMD platform is fine for your average gamer that has a 60hz monitor, but 120hz is another story.
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Well that and laptop i5s are pretty underwhelming dual-cores, unlike the desktop quad-cores. I actually like AMD's laptop processors, largely because of their integrated graphics, though there aren't many of them. Laptops are... laptops though. Particularly because of their hard drives, they always seem slow as molasses.
I wish I had a good answer for your upgrade urge, but you seem to have everything covered. Maybe a new chair or a secondary monitor for looking up whatever/skyping during games?

LOL, I got this chair from work... http://www.talarmade.com/products/450-dynaspine-executive-chair.aspx so no need, think I am going to go for another HD7970 and hold out for PD
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Given that you have a 120hz monitor, I would recommend a 2500k. Regardless of how much better PD ends up being over BD, it won't be better than SB in single threaded apps. The AMD platform is fine for your average gamer that has a 60hz monitor, but 120hz is another story.

Believe it or not I looked at SB a while back but I saw your fx8120 vs 2500 bench and decided the difference wasn't worth it, also in the UK my local pc store sells fx 8120 for £100 (after £20 cashback) and the I5 is 70% more expensive.

http://www.cclonline.com/product/44975/BX80623I52500K/CPUs/Intel-Core-i5-2500K-3-3GHz-Quad-Core-Processor/CPU1109/
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