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I have no qualms about spending the money on one of the name brands IF there is a real benefit. I keep my monitors a long time so it is a worthy investment. Of course I certainly don't want to pour money down the drain if I don't need to.
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I would also like to be added to the club, my monitor is in my sig, unfortunately i can't type it or post will be removed. But my new build will be below:

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add me Dell u3011 2560x1600 powered by my sli gtx580s, it is the one on the right, the left one is my 3d monitor

My current setup, yes I am aware my desk is a mess.
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Not really. dell, apple, and hp are still not 100% perfect panels...they have light bleed and can get dead pixels...unless you really need a warranty that bad you're gonna pay for that warranty. I'll stick with my 1 year on my crossovers and save $2k for all 3.
? my 3 crossovers, barely any backlight bleed and ZERO dead pixels....no "buzzing" I could go on.... and all 3 cost less than 1 dell or apple.

This is complete bunk. There is no comparison between cheap Korean knock-offs and high-end IPS panels of Dell/HP/Apple.

First, the Korean monitors are not 30" monitors. There is a reason why the Korean monitors are so cheap. Labor is not the only reason. I have 3 Dell U3011s and there are ZERO dead pixels and "light bleed". rolleyes.gif

Did you have 3 Dell/HP/Apple monitors and then go to Korean monitors? rolleyes.gif Didn't think so. I suppose this is your way of justifying sticking with the low-end budget monitor.
     
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This is complete bunk. There is no comparison between cheap Korean knock-offs and high-end IPS panels of Dell/HP/Apple.
First, the Korean monitors are not 30" monitors. There is a reason why the Korean monitors are so cheap. Labor is not the only reason. I have 3 Dell U3011s and there are ZERO dead pixels and "light bleed". rolleyes.gif
Did you have 3 Dell/HP/Apple monitors and then go to Korean monitors? rolleyes.gif Didn't think so. I suppose this is your way of justifying sticking with the low-end budget monitor.

it's the same damn exact monitor using same exact LG panels....made by the same people with a different shell...get off your high horse. Perhaps you should look at all the korean threads comparing these monitors to the same exact counterparts using the same exact LG panels.

absolutely not a knock off(no where do my monitors say apple, dell, or hp anywhere on them) and we are talking about the 27" koreans vs. 27" dells/apples/hp

so before you try to "debunk" anything...don't spread false information because we are using the same identical panel people pay a lot of money for. We just happen to choose a cheaper alternative from over seas even knowing it is the same exact thing.
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Is there any benefit to buying a high end monitor from say Dell or HP etc. vs a Catleap or the like?

Not really. dell, apple, and hp are still not 100% perfect panels...they have light bleed and can get dead pixels...unless you really need a warranty that bad you're gonna pay for that warranty. I'll stick with my 1 year on my crossovers and save $2k for all 3.
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Warranty for korean monitors is tops 1 year, 3 years for Dell/HP with good customer service.
Also the Korean monitors are made from faulty LG panels with very poor acessories, stand and total design while Dell uses perfect panels and good stuff and stands. Also the light bleeding, dead pixels, buzzing, quality of electronics...

? my 3 crossovers, barely any backlight bleed and ZERO dead pixels....no "buzzing" I could go on.... and all 3 cost less than 1 dell or apple.

Barely any back-light bleed. My U2711 has no back-light bleed. That's the difference between a A+ grade panel and A-. Which is also what you're paying for.
With Dell/NEC/Apple?/HP?(not sure about Apple's and HP's warranty limitations), you get a better warranty and a higher grade panel. Also, afa Dell and NEC goes, they will replace your monitor until your happy with it.
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it's the same damn exact monitor using same exact LG panels....made by the same people with a different shell...get off your high horse. Perhaps you should look at all the korean threads comparing these monitors to the same exact counterparts using the same exact LG panels.
absolutely not a knock off(no where do my monitors say apple, dell, or hp anywhere on them) and we are talking about the 27" koreans vs. 27" dells/apples/hp
so before you try to "debunk" anything...don't spread false information because we are using the same identical panel people pay a lot of money for. We just happen to choose a cheaper alternative from over seas even knowing it is the same exact thing.

Yes, they are the same panels, but not the same grade. Those Korean monitors are so cheap because they aren't A+ stock like the Dells/Apples/etc etc. The Korean ones are generally A- or B grade stock, meaning they're allowed x amount of dead/bright pixels and imperfections like back-light bleed, unevenness or tinting. Is that to say you will get a one with a faulty panel? Not at all as many in the Korean monitor threads have gotten perfect pixel panels; the difference is you're not guaranteed that.
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I have no qualms about spending the money on one of the name brands IF there is a real benefit. I keep my monitors a long time so it is a worthy investment. Of course I certainly don't want to pour money down the drain if I don't need to.

The difference is the warranty, reliability of that warranty, build quality, features, and the fact that with the high-end monitors you're guaranteed a A+ grade panel - meaning no bright pixels, up to 3 dark pixels not in centre of panel and zero imperfections.
You can look into the monitors from Overlord, they're A and A+ grade stock and inexpensive (range from $330-$500), and you can get a pixel perfect model which guarantees a A+ panel. Build quality and features are rather basic tho.
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I have no qualms about spending the money on one of the name brands IF there is a real benefit. I keep my monitors a long time so it is a worthy investment. Of course I certainly don't want to pour money down the drain if I don't need to.

The only benefit you get from the Dells/HPs/Apples/etc. are the warranty. I've got one Dell U3011 with a 5 year warranty, if anything is wrong with the monitor they overnight a new one to me and I mail the old one back, prepaid. If you want to keep the monitor for several years (like I did) and you only want one (like I did, no offence to anybody but I hate the bezels in the middle of the picture) then it would be worth it. Just do what I did and call Dell or HP if you go with one of their panels. I got mine knocked down to $1000 with the 5 year warranty, that's pretty damn good if you ask me.
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Hmm I didn't know about the Overlord monitors that looks promising, build quality and features are not super important as long as it works.

but yeah since I keep it so long the warranty might be helpful but then again I have never had to "send back" a monitor.

I am debating between this and a Nexus 4. tongue.gif
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Yes, as I said... Dell etc. makes their monitors from perfect displays, every display has to pass their good/little worse than perfect = bad test and these which don't pass are used to make korean monitors.
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The only benefit you get from the Dells/HPs/Apples/etc. are the warranty. I've got one Dell U3011 with a 5 year warranty, if anything is wrong with the monitor they overnight a new one to me and I mail the old one back, prepaid. If you want to keep the monitor for several years (like I did) and you only want one (like I did, no offence to anybody but I hate the bezels in the middle of the picture) then it would be worth it. Just do what I did and call Dell or HP if you go with one of their panels. I got mine knocked down to $1000 with the 5 year warranty, that's pretty damn good if you ask me.
You called them for discount?
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Barely any back-light bleed. My U2711 has no back-light bleed. That's the difference between a A+ grade panel and A-. Which is also what you're paying for.
With Dell/NEC/Apple?/HP?(not sure about Apple's and HP's warranty limitations), you get a better warranty and a higher grade panel. Also, afa Dell and NEC goes, they will replace your monitor until your happy with it.
Yes, they are the same panels, but not the same grade. Those Korean monitors are so cheap because they aren't A+ stock like the Dells/Apples/etc etc. The Korean ones are generally A- or B grade stock, meaning they're allowed x amount of dead/bright pixels and imperfections like back-light bleed, unevenness or tinting. Is that to say you will get a one with a faulty panel? Not at all as many in the Korean monitor threads have gotten perfect pixel panels; the difference is you're not guaranteed that.
The difference is the warranty, reliability of that warranty, build quality, features, and the fact that with the high-end monitors you're guaranteed a A+ grade panel - meaning no bright pixels, up to 3 dark pixels not in centre of panel and zero imperfections.
You can look into the monitors from Overlord, they're A and A+ grade stock and inexpensive (range from $330-$500), and you can get a pixel perfect model which guarantees a A+ panel. Build quality and features are rather basic tho.


My 3 panels are not A-, Accessorieswhole only sells A panels with less than 3 dead pixel policy and I have no dead pixels.


and the panels come off the SAME assembly line. One that has minor imperfection that is either A or A- gets sent to a korean manufactuer such as Crossover, Catleap, etc.... while the A+ goes to dell hp apple etc. It's the same identical thing and when you have 3 panels such as mine with no light bleed, no dead pixels... YOU do the math.

Even if the panels die.. I can still buy new ones and still be cheaper than a dell or apple after buying 3 monitors all over again.

The point is, I have same monitor for 700 less a piece. It's a no brainer.

People, it is as simple as this, people on this forum all over have these Korean monitors for a reason.. THEY are a STEAL for the SAME thing.



Oh yea second class rip off monitors right here! -_-

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