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So what does the bus allow the gpu to do? I am guessing lower bus is worse?
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So what does the bus allow the gpu to do? I am guessing lower bus is worse?

It's not a huge deal. Even though you have 4GB instead of 2GB of VRAM, the bus width is the same, so it starts to get a bit like a clown car. It's still better than being hard limited by 2GB.
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So what does the bus allow the gpu to do? I am guessing lower bus is worse?

The bus is the amount of data per second it can transfer

Or at least that is how i understood it could be wrong
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So what does the bus allow the gpu to do? I am guessing lower bus is worse?
Think of it like a freeway, the bus width (in bits) is the amount of lanes, if there's more lanes then you can get more cars (information) through in a certain period of time.
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Ok, so in terms of high resolution gaming. Higher bus width is, to some extent, vital when loading up high resolution textures.
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The bus is the amount of data per second it can transfer

Or at least that is how i understood it could be wrong

You also have to look at bus speed.

You could have a 512bit bus that runs at half the speed of the 256bit bus and they'd both have the same bandwidth.
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Ok, so in terms of high resolution gaming. Higher bus width is, to some extent, vital when loading up high resolution textures.
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Think of it like a freeway, the bus width (in bits) is the amount of lanes, if there's more lanes then you can get more cars (information) through in a certain period of time.

And each cycle is a 'tick' that the cars move forward. So with a sufficiently wide bus, vram speed is not as important.
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Interesting, does architecture not play a factor into this though? In this department it seems like AMD is whipping Nvidia.

FYI, I am picking up the Evga 670's, I am just asking out of curiosity.
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Just for reference the 670/680 is 192.2 GB/s, the Radeon 7950 is 240 GB/s, and the Radeon 7970 is 264 GB/s all at stock clocks. The question becomes, does that 48 or 72 GB/s more make an appreciable difference, and how would that be measured? Conclusion I don't know and I don't know. I doubt anyone else knows either.

Unless you had two identical cards both Nvidia or both AMD, one with a 256 bit bus and the other with a 384 bit bus you can't get a handle on what impact the bus width is having since there are so many other variables. AMD users love to point out their 384bit bus, but none of them can say for certain that the extra bandwidth is even accomplishing anything. And no, I'm not trying to start a war, that's just how it is since it can't be singled out and measured.

And here is a comparison of the 670 vs the 7950:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/598?vs=550

They trade blows for the most part, in some things the 670 does better, in others the 7950 does better.

So you cant just boil a decision down to small aspect of a card and say "oh ho, my bus width is 50% bigger, clearly it is the better card" which is actually something you will see said quite a lot... rolleyes.gif

Take the entire package into consideration along with reliability, drivers, SLI/Crossfire support, microstuttering (yes, I went there), downsampling, sparse grid supersampling, etc....
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