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Well at first I thought pictures are not neccesarry too, but since it will be a nice touch and a good way to see setups of fellow OCN members, I wanted to put that option lately.


Again I WILL NOT make it a requirement for already listed members, but will require it from the new comers if it wont be much of a hassle.

 

I am not going to be a hard ass and say that, "if you dont have a picture than there is no way in life you wont be in the club" but for proof purposes I am adding pictures from members next to their name on the OP.

 

@ TomiKazi

 

I will add that picture since you are an older member, but if it wont be a much of a hassle can you have a wordpad open and write your name on the screen than take the picture?

 

Nice wallpaper btw. My wife just walked it and wanted me to have a wallpaper like that too. Lol.

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pics from me as well:
monitor:

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Perfect thank you thumbsupsmiley.png

 

I added the picture of your monitor on the OP. For now I am not adding the GPU pictures, but might do so later so it is good that you posted it in advance.

 

You are the first 590 of the club ;)

 

How is it in 1440p?

 

I used to own a 590 before too but had to sell it.

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He didn't say anything about 3x 1440p, and that's a completely different story. 2GB is not enough for 1440p surround for high-end games, simple as that.

Based on my experience of running 10 megapixels with just 1 GB (3x 1440p is about 11 megapixels) I would say it depends on settings so its not quite as simple. If you can tolerate no AA or low AA levels then 2 GB will be perfectly adequate even for reasonably modern games, unless we are talking there about extra large texture packs and stuff. Sure, 3+ GB is better and more "future proof" but you can be perfectly fine, for now, with 2 GB as well.

Speaking of AA, its horribly overdone nowadays, especially considering the relatively high pixel density displays in use nowadays. AA had some point back when people used 1024x768 on 19'' to 21'' displays. A human with 20/20 vision can not tell the difference between no AA and 2x or any higher number of AA at a distance of ~70 cm from a 23'' 1920x1080 screen (~110 dpi). This statement is based on the physical limitations of a human eye. Any higher resolution, virtual or otherwise means that the light sensitive cells in your eye central part (where they are the most dense) that several pixels end up on the same cell which average them out, more precisely image of white and black lines at higher density appears as a gray. So in a essence if you are sitting at ~2 feet from your ~110 dpi screen (23'' for a 1920x1ˇ080 or 27'' for 2560x1440) your eye has a "hardware AA" that kicks in so you don't need to waste a processing power for doing what nature already does for you.
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Perfect thank you thumbsupsmiley.png

I added the picture of your monitor on the OP. For now I am not adding the GPU pictures, but might do so later so it is good that you posted it in advance.

You are the first 590 of the club wink.gif

How is it in 1440p?

I used to own a 590 before too but had to sell it.

So far it has done just fine. No slowdowns or anything in any of the games I've tried. Sure it could have some more vram but the brute force of two full fermis is still there. For example I much prefer it over a 2GB GTX670 that I benched on my rig. The 590 is noticeably better.

Looking to go GK110 when those pop up though smile.gif
 
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Based on my experience of running 10 megapixels with just 1 GB (3x 1440p is about 11 megapixels) I would say it depends on settings so its not quite as simple. If you can tolerate no AA or low AA levels then 2 GB will be perfectly adequate even for reasonably modern games, unless we are talking there about extra large texture packs and stuff. Sure, 3+ GB is better and more "future proof" but you can be perfectly fine, for now, with 2 GB as well.
Speaking of AA, its horribly overdone nowadays, especially considering the relatively high pixel density displays in use nowadays. AA had some point back when people used 1024x768 on 19'' to 21'' displays. A human with 20/20 vision can not tell the difference between no AA and 2x or any higher number of AA at a distance of ~70 cm from a 23'' 1920x1080 screen (~110 dpi). This statement is based on the physical limitations of a human eye. Any higher resolution, virtual or otherwise means that the light sensitive cells in your eye central part (where they are the most dense) that several pixels end up on the same cell which average them out, more precisely image of white and black lines at higher density appears as a gray. So in a essence if you are sitting at ~2 feet from your ~110 dpi screen (23'' for a 1920x1ˇ080 or 27'' for 2560x1440) your eye has a "hardware AA" that kicks in so you don't need to waste a processing power for doing what nature already does for you.

good explanation and +rep for that.

 

I agree with you in most cases but still I would go for a 4GB card on a 1440p surround setup because I do game in modern games most of the time. Crysis 2 and Battlefield 3 are using my vrams on a single monitor a lot. If a person already has a 2GB GPU with a 1440p surround than he might stick with it but if he is to purchase a new GPU, a 4GB would be beneficial.

 

Also I do agree on AA. I use FXAA only and turning MSAA off, however i do notice a very small difference in BF3 between no AA and 2xMSAA.. Though i can not tell the difference between 4xMSAA and 2xMSAA.

 

A person CAN use no MSAA in any game on 1440p and he would be just fine. He wouldnt be "settled", but would be just fine.

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So far it has done just fine. No slowdowns or anything in any of the games I've tried. Sure it could have some more vram but the brute force of two full fermis is still there. For example I much prefer it over a 2GB GTX670 that I benched on my rig. The 590 is noticeably better.
Looking to go GK110 when those pop up though smile.gif

I did switch to 670 2GB from 590 and i can honestly say that 590 was a tad better than my Gigabyte 670.

 

I never felt any microstuttering as well. I used to love that card but had to sell it because 2nd hand of a 590 in Turkey is a disaster. I had to sell it before keplers became more popular.. Now i have a 670 4GB and will be SLIing it on my bday hopefully.

 

I wish NVIDIA was smarter and added more Vram on their dual GPU cards.

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good explanation and +rep for that.

I agree with you in most cases but still I would go for a 4GB card on a 1440p surround setup because I do game in modern games most of the time. Crysis 2 and Battlefield 3 are using my vrams on a single monitor a lot. If a person already has a 2GB GPU with a 1440p surround than he might stick with it but if he is to purchase a new GPU, a 4GB would be beneficial.

Also I do agree on AA. I use FXAA only and turning MSAA off, however i do notice a very small difference in BF3 between no AA and 2xMSAA.. Though i can not tell the difference between 4xMSAA and 2xMSAA.

A person CAN use no MSAA in any game on 1440p and he would be just fine. He wouldnt be "settled", but would be just fine.

Oh I'm not arguing that more is better. Given a choice I would pick larger vRAM buffer without second thought if the price difference is sufficiently low. Extra texture packs, more headroom, more future proof, etc etc. Its definitely good to have more.

All humans are not with 20/20 vision either, some go beyond that so its entirely possible that some people can tell the difference between no AA and 2x or even 4x AA at the mentioned distance.

I think that the AA levels above x8 were invented for marketing purposes before surround/eyefinity came around. Back then the card makers seemed to face an issue that games did not really need that additional horsepower they were offering so some games implemented very high levels of AA and all the sudden 1 GB of vRAM started to kinda make sense even at 1920x1080 which started to get into mainstram use back then. Well .. until eyefinity and surround came around and all the sudden 1 GB is not that much anymore.
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Is it better go to sli 670 4gb or get a 690? (sli 680 4gb are more than a 690 so I won't be doing that) for 7680x1440 and again I won't be running msaa, just fxaa if I run any aa at all.

Thanks.
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Is it better go to sli 670 4gb or get a 690? (sli 680 4gb are more than a 690 so I won't be doing that) for 7680x1440 and again I won't be running msaa, just fxaa if I run any aa at all.
Thanks.

Honestly if i were you i would go 670 4GB SLI with 1440p surround.

 

We have a total of 7 members with 690s on the club. None with surround setups though.

 

But i would go with a 670 4GB SLI which would cost around a single 690 anyway.

 

If you were not gaming in surround I could go for the 690 as it would produce less heat, noise, and power consumption than a 670 SLI AFAIK

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