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IcedEarth
you know how it is lately
We see Apple, and flip out lol
But I could never say anythign poor about the old Apple products utilizing PowerPC Processors.
They were great procs indeed.
But anyone know WHY they decided older tech vs newer procs which would need much less power, much less cooling? Is there something about that particular Laptop Designed PowerPC Chip that im missing?
thats my major question here.
and are they running anything redundantly? You would think something liek this they would have multiple levels of redundancy incase ANYTHING were to get fried from extra solar radiation

According to wikipedia its a 10watt processor i think. so its not going to be that hot, and it also said at night they have a heater to keep it within the temperature ranges.
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The RAD750 is a radiation-hardened single board computer manufactured by BAE Systems Electronic Solutions.[1] The successor of the RAD6000, the RAD750 is for use in high radiation environments such as experienced on board satellites and spacecraft.[2] The RAD750 was released in 2001, with the first units launched into space in 2005.[1][3]
The CPU has 10.4 million transistors, nearly an order of magnitude more than the RAD6000 (which had 1.1 million).[3] It is manufactured using either 250 or 150 nm photolithography and has a die area of 130 mm².[1] It has a core clock of 110 to 200 MHz and can process at 266 MIPS or more.[1] The CPU can include an extended L2 cache to improve performance.[3] The CPU itself can withstand 200,000 to 1,000,000 rads (2,000 to 10,000 gray), temperature ranges between –55 °C and 125 °C and requires 5 watts of power.[1][3] The standard RAD750 single-board system (CPU and motherboard) can withstand 100,000 rads (1,000 gray), temperature ranges between –55 °C and 70 °C and requires 10 watts of power.[3]
The RAD750 system has a price that is comparable to the RAD6000 which is US$200,000 per board (per 2002 reference).[4] However customer program requirements and quantities will greatly affect the final unit costs.
The RAD750 is based on IBM's PowerPC 750.[1] Its packaging and logic functions are completely compatible with the PowerPC 7xx family.

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The Rad750 also means radiation hardened thats why they dont use retail processors.
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Yah i saw they said it was Radiation Hardened, not that i exaclty know what this means, but 10 watts thats impressive for old tech
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post #103 of 183
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IcedEarth
you know how it is lately
We see Apple, and flip out lol
But I could never say anythign poor about the old Apple products utilizing PowerPC Processors.
They were great procs indeed.
But anyone know WHY they decided older tech vs newer procs which would need much less power, much less cooling? Is there something about that particular Laptop Designed PowerPC Chip that im missing?
thats my major question here.
and are they running anything redundantly? You would think something liek this they would have multiple levels of redundancy incase ANYTHING were to get fried from extra solar radiation

It's the same with any major technological feat, such as fighter jets.

These things take years of R&D to develop. They have to draw a line and baseline the project at some point otherwise they would constantly be in the R&D stage trying to re-design and incorporate the latest technology.

Fighter jets take 10-20 years to design, the Eurofighter Typhoon started development in the 80's and it has only just gone into service. This is just how advanced technology works unfortunately.

As for why they chose that product, it was most probably one of the only CPU's at that time that could handle the environment it will be used in. There's not many options out there for radiation proof CPU's. smile.gif
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In fact everyone in the Jet Propulsion Lab in California use Macbook Pros.

it does make sense why they would. MBP even though they are wildly overpriced are normally a lot more stable and trustworthy to operate than a windows based laptop.
 
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well for the space shuttle they had plenty of opportunities to upgrade the system computers. but they didnt need too why? Because they one needed them for one purpose. the space shuttle worked clean as a whistle for the most part. so why change components around only to work out the bugs again?

i mean back when they were sending chimps into space they weren't sending up their to Fold..haha
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it does make sense why they would. MBP even though they are wildly overpriced are normally a lot more stable and trustworthy to operate than a windows based laptop.

...based on?


Windows security is more transparent and therefore trustworth. As for OS stability, you can always get a cheap Windows laptop and install Linux.
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...based on?
Windows security is more transparent and therefore trustworth. As for OS stability, you can always get a cheap Windows laptop and install Linux.

i get that, but most of these guys probably use programs that linux cant really support. and they probably just want something that just works, since they do kind of work a high stress and demanding job tongue.gif
 
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...based on?
Windows security is more transparent and therefore trustworth. As for OS stability, you can always get a cheap Windows laptop and install Linux.

Get em Duckie

I just cannot imagine myself getting work done on a Mac

My Boss has been talking aout adding Apple to our support, while I understand this for iPhones and iPads, I just dont see us running into people using Macs that often lol

Client: "Hey this is So and So my PowerMac is not working right , What Do I Do??"

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In fact everyone in the Jet Propulsion Lab in California use Macbook Pros.

it does make sense why they would. MBP even though they are wildly overpriced are normally a lot more stable and trustworthy to operate than a windows based laptop.

I work on both Macs and Windows workstations at work. Our Macs seem to crash/freeze/lockup/panic about 10x as much as our Windows stations.
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Well if I wanted something to run perfectly, I would run it on a Apple 10 out of 10 times.
 
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