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post #1 of 6
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Hi everyone,

I am new to the overclocking scene, but very familiar and capable with computers in general. I'll get right to the point. My hardware is as follows:

CPU: i7 2600k
Cooler: Hyper 212+ Push/Pull
Motherboard: Asrock Fatal1ty P67 Performance, BIOS v. 2.20

I overclocked my i7 to 4.5Ghz. The performance is incredible, and I usually only hit 70 degrees Celsius at 100% load (Prime95 blend test). However, when I run this overclock I encounter an intermittent power-on issue with my computer. Sometimes, my computer will turn on, but my screen will not. Sometimes, my PC will turn on (no screen), wait a few seconds and turn off, then back on again, then back off, then back on. Sometimes, the computer comes on and simply sits there, fans going, LEDs on, but no monitor action. If I hold down the power button and force the computer off I can turn it back on and it might work just like normal, no problems, as if nothing ever happened.

Let me be clear: this is a power-on issue. I have encountered zero BSODs, PC freezes. hangups, random power offs, etc. Once I get the computer turned on and I see the BIOS boot screen, everything always works just fine. No problems.

I know this is related to my overclock settings, because when I reset the BIOS to factory defaults I never encounter this power-on issue. Please take a look at my settings and give me your thoughts.

Thanks OC gurus!

Relevant Settings (If you need info I have not included, just ask):

C1E: Disabled
C3: Disabled
C6: Disabled
Package C State Support: Disabled
Thermal Throttling: Disabled

CPU Ratio: 45
BCLK: 100 (Stock)
Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Speedstep: Enabled
Turbo Boost: Enabled
Turbo Voltage: Auto
Internal PLL Voltage: Enabled
Long Power Limit: 190 Watts
Short: 210 Watts
CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
Offset: +0.020v
CPU Load Line Calibration: Auto

Cheers,
Cody
post #2 of 6
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Originally Posted by TangoZuluNiner View Post

Hi everyone,
I am new to the overclocking scene, but very familiar and capable with computers in general. I'll get right to the point. My hardware is as follows:
CPU: i7 2600k
Cooler: Hyper 212+ Push/Pull
Motherboard: Asrock Fatal1ty P67 Performance, BIOS v. 2.20
I overclocked my i7 to 4.5Ghz. The performance is incredible, and I usually only hit 70 degrees Celsius at 100% load (Prime95 blend test). However, when I run this overclock I encounter an intermittent power-on issue with my computer. Sometimes, my computer will turn on, but my screen will not. Sometimes, my PC will turn on (no screen), wait a few seconds and turn off, then back on again, then back off, then back on. Sometimes, the computer comes on and simply sits there, fans going, LEDs on, but no monitor action. If I hold down the power button and force the computer off I can turn it back on and it might work just like normal, no problems, as if nothing ever happened.
Let me be clear: this is a power-on issue. I have encountered zero BSODs, PC freezes. hangups, random power offs, etc. Once I get the computer turned on and I see the BIOS boot screen, everything always works just fine. No problems.
I know this is related to my overclock settings, because when I reset the BIOS to factory defaults I never encounter this power-on issue. Please take a look at my settings and give me your thoughts.
Thanks OC gurus!
Relevant Settings (If you need info I have not included, just ask):
C1E: Disabled
C3: Disabled
C6: Disabled
Package C State Support: Disabled
Thermal Throttling: Disabled
CPU Ratio: 45
BCLK: 100 (Stock)
Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Speedstep: Enabled
Turbo Boost: Enabled
Turbo Voltage: Auto
Internal PLL Voltage: Enabled
Long Power Limit: 190 Watts
Short: 210 Watts
CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
Offset: +0.020v
CPU Load Line Calibration: Auto
Cheers,
Cody

Turn off internal PLL voltage. If you can boot into Windows without it on, you don't need it (or usually 4.8ghz+). I've seen it do weird things like this before.
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Intel Core i5 2500K (4.5ghz @ 1.320v) Gigabyte Z68X-UD3R-B3 MSI R7970 Lightning Corsair 16GB (4x4GB) 
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CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Phanteks PH-TC14PE with TY-140's Lamptron FCv5 (x2) Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Dell U2412M 
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post #3 of 6
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Originally Posted by tompsonn View Post

Turn off internal PLL voltage. If you can boot into Windows without it on, you don't need it (or usually 4.8ghz+). I've seen it do weird things like this before.

Awesome. I will give this a shot when I get home from work tonight. It may take me a few days to post the results on whether or not this worked, though, since this is an intermittent issue. I can't always reliably reproduce my symptoms. It may take a few days (or more) to figure out if this actually fixes my problem or not.

I'll let you know when I know something. Thanks again!

Cheers,
Cody
post #4 of 6
Thread Starter 
Well, so far so good. I think this tweak may have fixed my problem, but I still want to give it a few more days before I say that with 100% certainty.

Also, for whatever reason, I had to bump my multiplier down to 44 (4.4Ghz) after this tweak. I just couldn't get my chip to agree with Prime95 at 4.5Ghz without PLL Overvoltage enabled. It isn't a big deal, though. With my multiplier at 44 I am able to run Auto volts, rather than offset mode at +0.020, and this makes me happy, because I am nervous about pumping too many volts through my chip, and I have more peace of mind with this setting on "Auto."

Thanks again, and I will be sure to update this thread if I experience any problems from here on out.

Cheers,
Cody
post #5 of 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by TangoZuluNiner View Post

Well, so far so good. I think this tweak may have fixed my problem, but I still want to give it a few more days before I say that with 100% certainty.
Also, for whatever reason, I had to bump my multiplier down to 44 (4.4Ghz) after this tweak. I just couldn't get my chip to agree with Prime95 at 4.5Ghz without PLL Overvoltage enabled. It isn't a big deal, though. With my multiplier at 44 I am able to run Auto volts, rather than offset mode at +0.020, and this makes me happy, because I am nervous about pumping too many volts through my chip, and I have more peace of mind with this setting on "Auto."
Thanks again, and I will be sure to update this thread if I experience any problems from here on out.
Cheers,
Cody

If you really want 4.5, there would be no harm in bumping the vcore a little higher as long as temps are in check smile.gif
I've never really needed PLL for 4.5 and in the times i have turned it on (usually for the sake of it), its caused all sorts of drama!

Hope it all continues to go well!
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"Zeus"
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Intel Core i5 2500K (4.5ghz @ 1.320v) Gigabyte Z68X-UD3R-B3 MSI R7970 Lightning Corsair 16GB (4x4GB) 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Plextor PX-256M5S 256GB Crucial M4 128GB Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 Hitachi HDS723020BLA642 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Hitachi HDS723020BLA642 Hitachi HUA722010CLA330 WDC WD10EARS-00Z5B1 TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223B 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Phanteks PH-TC14PE with TY-140's Lamptron FCv5 (x2) Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Dell U2412M 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Dell U2412M Dell U2212HM Dell U2212HM Ducky DK9087 G2 Pro 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair AX-750 Corsair Obsidian 650D Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical  XTRAC Ripper XXL 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Westone W3 IEMs RE-272 IEMs Shure SE-215 IEMs Schiit Bifrost DAC 
AudioAudio
Schiit Asgard 2 amp HiVi Swan M50W 2.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 950 GA-X58-UD3R Radeon HD 5450  24GB Corsair @ 1333mhz 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
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"Zeus"
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K (4.5ghz @ 1.320v) Gigabyte Z68X-UD3R-B3 MSI R7970 Lightning Corsair 16GB (4x4GB) 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Plextor PX-256M5S 256GB Crucial M4 128GB Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 Hitachi HDS723020BLA642 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Hitachi HDS723020BLA642 Hitachi HUA722010CLA330 WDC WD10EARS-00Z5B1 TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223B 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Phanteks PH-TC14PE with TY-140's Lamptron FCv5 (x2) Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Dell U2412M 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Dell U2412M Dell U2212HM Dell U2212HM Ducky DK9087 G2 Pro 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair AX-750 Corsair Obsidian 650D Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical  XTRAC Ripper XXL 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Westone W3 IEMs RE-272 IEMs Shure SE-215 IEMs Schiit Bifrost DAC 
AudioAudio
Schiit Asgard 2 amp HiVi Swan M50W 2.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 950 GA-X58-UD3R Radeon HD 5450  24GB Corsair @ 1333mhz 
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post #6 of 6
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Just wanted to update this thread for anyone that may stumble or Google upon it. Disabling PLL Overvoltage has fixed my problem.

Also, I tweaked some settings and I am now happily at 4.6Ghz on air (Hyper 212+)

All my settings are the same as in my original post, except:

Multiplier: 46 (obviously)
Load Line Calibration: Level 1
Offset Voltage at -0.080v

Here's a quick screencap of the chip under load. It hasn't been under load for long, but the max temp I have seen is 76 celsius on one core. During gaming (Skyrim, Natural Selection 2) I never reach over 60 celsius. Not even close. 56 is the highest I have seen.



I also played around with a 4.7Ghz setup, and my system handled it like a champ. Here's a screencap of how that went down:



That's the same settings as 4.6Ghz, but I changed the offset voltage to -0.045v

I am probably not going to run that 4.7Ghz overclock until I can afford a better cooler, though. The temps get around 80 under Prime95 blend test after awhile.

Cheers,
Cody
Edited by TangoZuluNiner - 8/13/12 at 5:38am
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