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I'm sorry, but I just have to bring this video up. Whenever I read about someone going to prison, I can't help but think of fleece johnson (youtube him, first link. I'm afraid to post it on here)...I'm such a bad person devil.gif

Some people may think that 3 years isn't a lot for something as bad as this, but his career after he gets out is gone forever, and it's going to be very hard for him to land a job, especially a technology oriented one. Prison isn't just a waiting game, you know. It's survival...
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Originally Posted by GingerJohn View Post

You usually sign a contract which contains clauses about secrecy and so on, but really there is no guarantee at all.
I actually "stole" some secrets from my last job by accident - I forgot that I had some drawings and calculations printed out in a box at home which I had used on one of my overseas trips. I did it by accident and of course no one noticed, how could they?
Obviously I didn't use them for anything - I called my old company, explained everything, mailed them the originals and shredded the rest - but it shows how easily it could be done with a little forward planning.
They had to fire him, or they would have been accused of being complicit. Also, why employ someone who is going to be in jail for 3 years? And could you ever trust him again?
As for his future, I hope he likes serving fast food...

Yeah, they do have you sign a contract - which is probably why they are taking legal action against him and he pleaded guilty.

lol, it's great that your employers understood. If someone didn't like you there, they'd have made a big deal of it tongue.gif.

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Heh, I am sure that was just a blast to the past Bulldozer joke, but...
according this at least some one hired by AMD did steal information. Though AMD supposedly knew nothing about it. I suppose they were just impressed by the guy's ideas and no one was aware that they were not his own. What I want to know is if any of this stolen CPU design from Intel actually made it into any AMD CPU.
It only says they were not aware he was stealing information...it does not say that AMD did not utilize any thing this guy brought to the table.

That would be really hard to prove since AMD would have had to replicate a very large portion of the design to count as stealing. There is no way to prove that a legit AMD engineer didn't come up with. say, a very similar memory controller arch as it is more efficient., etc.

Also, according to this source,
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"AMD was not accused of wrongdoing, and the FBI has stated that there is no evidence that AMD had any involvement in or awareness of Mr. Pani's alleged actions," said Drew Prairie, a spokesman for AMD

Implying that AMD is currently off the hook ... at least until Intel finds evidence contrary to their claim and files charges.
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I'm glad to know that AMD cooperated with the authorities on this and wasn't involved.
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Why put him in prison? Just give him a fine, it's not like he is a physical threat to society.

Well, for one, your making a great assumption that if we fine a thief they will willingly pay. Now I dont know many thiefs, but slapping a billion dollar fine on one would not motivate him to do any more good in his life time. Let alone, stay in the country.
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That would be really hard to prove since AMD would have had to replicate a very large portion of the design to count as stealing. There is no way to prove that a legit AMD engineer didn't come up with. say, a very similar memory controller arch as it is more efficient., etc.
Also, according to this source,
Implying that AMD is currently off the hook ... at least until Intel finds evidence contrary to their claim and files charges.

I hope that is true...I guess it really might come down to how much Intel wants to press the issue. I am going to try find out what role AMD had this guy in. If he was closely connected to CPU development I can't see how the Intel info couldn't have been used...unless it was unrelated to or not compatible with any thing AMD was developing.

Still...an interesting situation to say the least. I am sure we will all know soon if this was a big deal or just a minor issue that will be forgotten about soon. I am surprised the more "sensationalist" blogs and news sites aren't running with this and blowing it way out of proportion.
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In the event that AMD had retained any of the information in question, you would think that actually utilizing it in any of their own products would be extremely difficult, if not impossible to get away with.
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In the event that AMD had retained any of the information in question, you would think that actually utilizing it in any of their own products would be extremely difficult, if not impossible to get away with.

Depends on what kind of details were in the information. It might have been info that they could have learned by just buying and Intel CPU and tearing it apart and looking at it under magnification. No way to know unless we find out what was stolen. Heh, just a description...I don't want to go to jail too.
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Wonder is my dad knew him...

did they both work at a hotdog factory before?

Lol i asked him and he said that a couple years ago he left. He said they had a discussion about it in his team, but he never actually worked with him, just worked under the same building.
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Lol i asked him and he said that a couple years ago he left. He said they had a discussion about it in his team, but he never actually worked with him, just worked under the same building.

Tell your dad I want a job at Intel tongue.gif.

no surprise, Intel is a pretty huge corporation haha. We just got a new hire where I work (former Intel employee) ... maybe I should ask him awkwardly if he turns out to be a nice guy ... (it will be funny cos one of my bosses is a former AMD Sr. design engineer too ...) .... yesss... I will do this and start a fight right before I leave .... devil.gif
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We just got a new hire where I work (former Intel employee) ... maybe I should ask him awkwardly if he turns out to be a nice guy ... (it will be funny cos one of my bosses is a former AMD Sr. design engineer too ...) .... yesss... I will do this and start a fight right before I leave .... devil.gif

Come in the next day and the entire place has turned into a paintball match with people wearing Red and Blue Shirts.... Lol.
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