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BTW Cavey00, If you click on my name you'll find about 50 posts I have made and started about 8 or 9 topics regarding this upcoming change for the last 2 weeks. No one said I was going to have to do this and I'm not even counting the other sites that I did more research in as well.

It's like they must have thought that this was 'common knowledge'. Maybe they all thought that I must have known this because of my first mod experience. And even when I did that one, I asked if there were any special steps I needed to follow and no one said anything about the OS.

I didn't have a problem and the chipsets may have been similar but they were definitely not the same. This is truly bad news. I'm going to have to pull it all out and put the ASUS back, and then figure out how I can save the programs I have. I mean I have them backed up but no, most were download purchases so I don't have the Disks.

On top of that, Windows 8 is out of the question. I'd spend months trying to figure out a way to make programs that were for 7 and Vista work in Windows 8. Not a chance. I'm a flight simmer, (FSX), with well over a thousand dollars in add-on programs for that sim. I don't know what I'm going to do. Just placing the ASUS mobo and CPU back is a pain because of the special harnessing of the wires and cables, not to mention the Liquid cool system and the completely different bracketing/mounts.

I appreciate your help and I don't want you to think I don't believe you, but I really need to hear from some other folks and see if they are all agreeing with what you said. I mean, I am into my OS right now but it's like I had described when I started this post. I was thinking/hoping it was a simple UEFI setting oversight. I don't know...
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Yea. That's basically common knowledge biggrin.gif. Well, good luck thumb.gif. Now you know what to do.
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post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by DeXel View Post


Also leave SATA mode to AHCI on the new board.

Dexel, in order to get the HD to boot to the OS when I did the ASUS mod, I had to switch it to IDE. This is actually in the instructions in the ASUS manual. But there, they tell you to follow a link to a Windows 'How-to' where you would go in and change a couple of lines in the registry so that the drives would boot to the OS when left in AHCI.

I did that and tested the speed difference. There was barely any, (about 3-5mbps faster in AHCI), and it was creating other little problems. So I changed it back to IDE and it ran fine ever since. I may try that here though and see what happens.

Still, you two sound like I have no chance unless I buy a new version of windows and then, for some reason, I can't use the programs I have that I backed up on a external HD or if I use a new HD as an OS drive and slave my old HD with a jumper so that It amounts to nothing more than a 'backup' HD and then transfer the programs to the new OS HD.

I'm tired.
Thanks all. I really need to look aty this and see what other people have done. I know I'm not the only one.
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post #14 of 22
Windows Vista and up has AHCI drivers. You needed to do that for Windows XP.

And AHCI should increase HDD and significantly increase SSD speeds. Also it allows hot-plug, so please keep it on.

As for copy of Windows... nobody says you cannot use it; however, it will be illegal then.
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post #15 of 22
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Thanks Dexel,
I assume that the reason I can't get on line wirelessly, and hence the reason why Asrock couldn't load the drivers is because I don't have a driver loaded for my network system. So I guess if I hook up a Ethernet cable directly to the computer I may be able to get on line.

Then it's a matter of what will happen if I let ASROCK install the drivers; will it harm my mobo? If things don't work well enough for me to try and recover some of the programs I have, will the mobo still be able to work after I put in a new OS Hard drive and format, etc?

As for the "Illegal" thing, well I'm sorry that you see it that way. I on the other hand, paid for that program and as such, am allowed to use it for myself regardless of what computer I want to use it with. It's only illegal if I were reproducing it and using it on two or more computers and I think it's safe to say, (based on my posts),it's obvious I'm only using it on, and only plan to use it on, one computer.

That new hard drive I'm about to place an order for, will be the only one with MY paid version of the Program and I'm not about to throw out my paid version of the program because someone thinks I have the "potential" to copy it to two or more computers simultaneously. No more than they can arrest someone for having a gallon of gasoline and therefore the potential of burning down someone else’s house. It just doesn't work that way.

Sorry, but you raised that point earlier and I think you have it a little distorted. However, I do appreciate all the help even if you prefer not to answer that last question about harming the motherboard. In as much as the news here tonight was pretty much ALL bad, it at least kept me from spending many more hours trying to make this work
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post #16 of 22
You either don't read what we wrote to you, or you have totally no understanding of program's license agreements.

When you bought HP computer with Windows on it, it is an OEM copy. Original Equipment Manufacture. OEM copy license terms stand that it can be used only with the PC it was originally installed on and cannot be transfered.

There is retail version of Windows also known as BOX version. It has no such limitations and it can be transfered from one to another computer, but cannot be used simultaneously.

All your other programs that you bought separately can be transfered, or in other words with Windows analogy they are BOX versions.
But you didn't buy a copy of Windows, did you? You bought a computer that has a specific software (in this case Windows OS) that is intended to be used with only that machine.

I did not make this terms, but this how it is, and thus it is illegal. On this note, I am leaving this thread and I hope you can solve your problems (ie just reinstall Windows).
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post #17 of 22
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Dexel, no one said you made those rules and I'm aware of some people seeing it that way, that's your choice.

But let me ask this retorical question; suppose you bought a new car in cash and 5 weeks later it got hit by a truck and totaled. Then you had to by a quick cheap used car and the windshield motor or window switch on it was dead.

Do you consider yourself stealing if you took the wiper motor or window switch from the totaled car and put it in the used one you just bought? I’d doubt it. Most people would clearly see the difference between you doing that with an “OEM” part and slipping into the auto parts store and stuffing it under your shirt. And so do I. You paid for the entire car so you own the entire car.

Thanks though, you helped save me some time.
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post #18 of 22
That's true with material items and only.

That analogy won't work with software, and it is just how it is.

EDIT: I am not an expert in the laws, but if I am not mistaken the USA law stands that all material items that bought are your property. However, software is not your property. You are allowed to use it on your system and/or modify depending on the license agreement. Therefore, your car analogy does not apply here at all.
Edited by DeXel - 8/9/12 at 9:36pm
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post #19 of 22
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Thanks Dexel,
I do have a DVD that I bought from Windows to upgrade a Vista 64bit computer OS to Windows 7 Home Premium. I used that program Windows has that checks to see if your computer is upgradable to another version and it said "Yes"! So I bought this "Upgrade" which I paid the same price for as I would have if I bought Windows 7 Home Premium, (2 disks and they do have "upgrade Assistant" on the lables but I think it's just a Winodws 7 64bit Hiome Premium).

Then when it got here I ran it and HP popped up, (it was my HP laptop), and said; "Guess what, this laptop can't be upgraded to Win7!". It turns out that before you even check to see if your version of windows is upgradable, you need to check with HP and see if the Laptop/desktop, (whatever), is able to be upgraded... Mine was not. My fault... yes. But somehow I felt like that was made as clear as it could have been bty one of the two, HP or MS Windows.

So here sits a $100.00 DVD legal and all. I'm going to call Windows tomorrow and see if I can run these on the new 1TB Seagate Hard drive I ordered, (be here Saturday), and see what they tell me. They may say that I can run it on the Hard Drive I have here right now. If I can, I think I can keep from losing the programs on that drive. That's really what I'm hoping for. But I don't know if it'll work or not.
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Hi Dexel,

I just thought I'd update you on the latest information. As it turns out, it seems I don't have to reinstall an operating system! I had to wait for my operating system that came from Amazon so I decided to load some drivers and see what happened because I didn't have much to lose.

At some point early in the game, a dialog box opened and Microsoft said that I needed to call a particular phone number and verify that my operating system was good. So I did. It passed with flying colors and no problems. In fact right now I'm running Dragon Naturally Speaking speech to text software and I'm pretty much back into things the way I was just before I made these changes.

Oh, there is one big difference; the processor is an i7 2600K and is running effortlessly at 4.4 GHz. It hadn't even broken a sweat yet and I have no doubt that I'll be able to get to at least 4.8 GHz when I decide to apply myself a little in that direction. These are my system specs as they stand now:

CASE: Corsair Carbide Series 500R
Asrock Z 77 Extreme 4
8 gigs Ram 2x4, (Corsair Vengeance lowpro 1666MHz)
OCZ 700 watt PSU
Intel i7 2600K
ATI Radeon Sapphire HD 5770 GPU 860MHz (GPU clock OC'd to 965MHz), (Mem clock 1330MHz)
CPU cooling with Corsair H100, (4) 120mm fans push/pull config)
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WD MyPassport 750GB
Simpletek 250Gb external
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Xigmatek Accessor Ultimate Card Reader
RealteK HD Sound
Case Cooling: (1 – NZXT) 200mm & (6 – Excaliburs) 120mm case fans
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
HP 2511X 25" monitor

Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know and thanks a lot for the help. Even though I didn't wind up having to go that way, I am planning to install that new Seagate 1 TB hard drive, (it's listed as my system drive above but I had put it in yet), and a lot of what you told me should help.
Thanks again, Rich
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