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Haswell comes with up to 3X faster 3D
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It turns out that Haswell, Intel's fourth-generation core architecture, can score three times the performance of Ivy Bridge GT1 and the Haswell in mind is called GT2 Desktop SKU.
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It can make AMD and Nvidia run for their money in the lower end market segment and possibly better gaming at entry level notebooks and desktop computers.
When we asked one of the Nvidia’s general managers what happens if Intel gets its act together and get its integrated graphics much faster, he replied that Nvidia will make even faster entry level parts. The same probably goes for AMD, but with the added luxury of top notch graphics in APUs.
The chase will definitely continue heated up in Q2 2013 when we should expect to see the launch of Haswell.

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Haswell to be 10+ percent faster than Ivy bridge
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Now Intel tells its partners to expect that Haswell should end up at least 10 percent faster than Ivy Bridge based cores at the same clock. These numbers are based on pre-silicon projections that Intel always does before it gets the working prototype back, but since we are some month away from the IDF 2012 in San Francisco, we are quite sure that we will see Haswell again, much closer to its final design, and we even expect to see Broadwell prototypes to hit at least one of the keynotes.

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Considering that Ivy it's around 5-10% faster than Sandy, Haswell will probably be 15-20+% faster than Sandy.
Expected a little bit more tbh.
It will be great for the new high density/high resolution panels coming to market in the laptops & tablets, not so much for desktop users.

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Edited by hrockh - 8/10/12 at 3:30am
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10% is pretty good! I'd love that with lower power consumption! thumb.gif
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Intel also hints at enhanced based overclocking and end user tunability, which sounds promising to many enthusiasts.
Sounds good.
I don't expect large IPC gains compared to Ivy, but (I guess) overclocking should be quite a bit less problematic.
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Hopefully higher clocks too. But 3x 3D performance? I wonder if that translates directly to gaming performance, if so AMD's APUs might be in trouble unless Kaveri pulls off something crazy
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Damn... guess I'm waiting till whatever is after haswell then.

Since Ivy wasn't really an improvement over sandy, more of a trade-off.
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If I remember right, Ivy in all cases was only around 2-5% of a increase clock for clock compared to sandy...
I would expect 10-15% to be huge for Haswell. The major proponent of making it better is moar cores. I heard a rumor out there that Haswell will be 8+cores on all chips....
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If I remember right, Ivy in all cases was only around 2-5% of a increase clock for clock compared to sandy...
I would expect 10-15% to be huge for Haswell. The major proponent of making it better is moar cores. I heard a rumor out there that Haswell will be 8+cores on all chips....

The problem with Ivy though is that it's harder to attain the same clocks as Sandy, so the IPC increase is largely negligible.
Although it does have some perks it wasn't really worth replacing a board/cpu for.

Then again PCI 3 might be a bigger selling point when HD8xxx or GF 7xx come around.
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Damn... guess I'm waiting till whatever is after haswell then.
Since Ivy wasn't really an improvement over sandy, more of a trade-off.

Broadwell or Bust!

My Q9450 has been having a good run being fortuitously timed with this extended console generation, but ~6 years and the advent of another die shrink and DDR4 is the writing on the wall.
   
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Damn... guess I'm waiting till whatever is after haswell then.
Since Ivy wasn't really an improvement over sandy, more of a trade-off.

Ivy's a good 5-10% in most benchmarks better than Sandy IIRC, not to mention the IGP in Ivy is leaps and bounds better than the IGP in Sandy CPUs. While that may not mean a lot to most of us here personally, it does bode well for the average user, and possibly PC gaming as a whole.

I'm on the HD4000 IGP right now being in between cards, and it's rather impressive for an IGP, and freaking amazing for an Intel IGP.
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As long as Haswell can overclock better than Ivy Bridge, Intel will have a winner on its hands. However, I'll be waiting for some ES performance leaks for some more accurate information before I decide to buy or not. I wonder if heat will be an issue with the smaller manufacturing process like it was a bit with Ivy.
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