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Kind of dissapointed their mainstream chips are still four cores. Looking purely at gaming performance I really can't justify moving to the enthusiast sockets but at the same time if I end up buying another quad core I feel like I'll almost feel ripped off a bit. Heck looking at gaming performance up to dual GPU it's hard to even justify a chip with hyperthreading.
    
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The article says, "at least" 10% faster. Could be 25% faster for all we know so far. I would wait to make judgement.
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I'm pretty sure Intel is focusing more on maturing the 22nm process, and fix the heat problems of IB, also a better IGP is good news for those that use Lucid's Virtu MVP. Lets see what Intel can bring to the table with haswell, honestly I won't wait that far I expect to get my self a 3570k until the end of the year, or a PD if AMD manage to do anything interesting with it.

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A 3960X should be fine for 3+ more years. I have a i7 950 and I'm not still not contemplating a new CPU any time soon.
Same here, I'm not planning to upgrade my i7 930 till at least Broadwell, possibly later.

This may be partially influenced by the fact that I don't want to ever take apart my water loop though. tongue.gif
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The article says, "at least" 10% faster. Could be 25% faster for all we know so far. I would wait to make judgement.

Since Ivy was a small step backwards in overclock potential, I would think the possibly of a large performance increase this time around is greater. Significant Increase in IPC + higher overclocks than 2 generations ago would be nice all at once and certainly feasible.

~5.5 Ghz with a minimum 10% more IPC than Ivy? thumbsupsmiley.png
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post #66 of 210
For me, it's all cumulative. I'm still sittin on a 920. So I think Haswell is going to be it. I've waited long enough. If it's 10% over Ivy and that was 10% over sandy and ....well you get the idea. I should have a pretty nice bump in my simple mind. biggrin.gif
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Math 101; 3x0 = 0! sure it is 3 times better, 3 time multiplied by crap not in it's dreams could it's rumored 40 gfx cores catch up to AMD 320 stream processors.

Actually according to Cantor's group set theory (which all multiplication is based on) 3 x 0 = 3 and 0 x 3 = 0 Yes yes you can google all sorts of people that don't understand math and even wolfrum alpha will say 3 x 0 = 0 I assure you sir, In the next 20 years you will find out 3 x 0 = 3 3/0 = 3 and 0 x 3 = 0... It would take too long to explain it to you here but Myself and a few mathematicians have been working on this for years.

I'll be curious to see that proven, given that all kinds of mathematical formulas that have been proven to be accurate would not work if you fundamentally changed how division works. Things like asymptotes in Calc would be destroyed by this if 3 * x approached infinity but then became 3 again at exactly 0, and then was approaching infinity again when x was negative. Forgive me if I'm skeptical.
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A 3960X should be fine for 3+ more years. I have a i7 950 and I'm not still not contemplating a new CPU any time soon.
Same here, I'm not planning to upgrade my i7 930 till at least Broadwell, possibly later.

This may be partially influenced by the fact that I don't want to ever take apart my water loop though. tongue.gif

A water loop and only running at 3.8Ghz? Blasphemy! I'm running at 3.6Ghz right now on a stock heatsink (don't ask).
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For me, it's all cumulative. I'm still sittin on a 920. So I think Haswell is going to be it. I've waited long enough. If it's 10% over Ivy and that was 10% over sandy and ....well you get the idea. I should have a pretty nice bump in my simple mind. biggrin.gif

Depends on the need. If the usage is mostly gaming, even a Bloomfield won't be a bottleneck for a long time, the GPU will remain the determining factor. You would be upgrading CPU, and motherboard and you still might end up with the same FPS (based on your monitor's refresh rate).
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A water loop and only running at 3.8Ghz? Blasphemy! I'm running at 3.6Ghz right now on a stock heatsink (don't ask).

I'll bite... Toaster broke down and you were hungry?
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Depends on the need. If the usage is mostly gaming, even a Bloomfield won't be a bottleneck for a long time, the GPU will remain the determining factor. You would be upgrading CPU, and motherboard and you still might end up with the same FPS (based on your monitor's refresh rate).

Hence my simple mind.

Games/benches. A bit of photoshop and video work for my job (believe it or not.)

MOSTLY, just for building a new machine because it's neato! But, it hasn't been worth it in my mind these last few releases. For me, it's more about resisting the urge to build for building's sake than for a perceived need.
Edited by LancerVI - 8/10/12 at 12:19pm
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Since Ivy was a small step backwards in overclock potential,

IB has actually been amazing for LN2 cooling. You can still hit 4.8-5Ghz (depending on ambients) with the Noctua NH-D14; better with a real WCing setup(not those all-in-one H100s).
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