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So I have this old Acer Aspire 4530 that I bought probably in 2006. It's been through a lot, all the peripherals are broken, and it's basically a slab of tech wired in to a bunch of things, positioned on an upturned shelf (the back (where the exhaust is) is angled upwards with an airflow under the computer... pretty much forming a right triangle with on angle being around 10 degrees high).

So basically, it's non-mobile laptop, that's far outlived it's warranty, and I am too poor to buy anything to upgrade it. Then I heard about overclocking, and I have been trying to do it for the last few days with no success. Turns out, I have a locked BIOS and a motherboard that confuses every overclocking program I have downloaded.

I've checked the forum for nothing really useful, and before you say how OCing a laptop is useless, it's really not much of a laptop anymore. If I need more cooling, I could take apart the case and stick the motherboard near a fan (at least that's what I have planned) because its immobile anyways.

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I was also thinking I could just take everything out of the laptop and stick it in one of the 5 computer cases I have laying around, using redneck tools like duct tape and maybe a saw for the disk drive (I mean cut into the case, not the drive itself). If anyone has any tips for doing this, let me know.
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ADD Version: My computer is old, broken, immobile, I'm too poor to buy anything for it, and I want to overclock it but the BIOS is locked and no software I've found has worked. Help?


Specs;

Acer Aspire 4530 Laptop
Windows Vista 32bit, Home Premium Service Pack 2
AMD Athlon 64 x2 QL-62, 2.0 GHz
Acer Inc Grasmoor Mainboard
3072 MBytes of RAM (DDR2)
NVIDIA GeForce 9100M G
Two hard drives at 142 GBytes
Edited by RandoRisqu - 8/10/12 at 10:20am
post #2 of 9
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No help then?
post #3 of 9
I wouldn't try OC'ing a little wee laptop like that, I'd imagine that it will Overheat and ultimately just fry itself.

Edit: Even sticking a fan near it won't really help. It's the heatsink that's the problem. Get a bigger one of those and it will be good, but you can't really get Laptop heatsinks.
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I hate to say this but I'm agreeing that OCing with that thing is not a good idea. If you want a "faster" experience then you need to change your OS. Blowing a fan at it won't help much more than maybe 1-3 degrees C (depending on just how much circulation you get). That's it.

If you want a "faster" experience then you need to get a new machine or OS. That's pretty much it.
     
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post #5 of 9
Yea, If you are not gaming alot I recommend the Linux OS, it is even free. And runs quickly, and uses very little resources.

If you do game alot you might want to go back to XP. It uses alot less than Vista, or if you want to keep the same look, go for a basic copy of Windows 7. It performs better than Vista, while using slight less resources.
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post #6 of 9
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Putting a fan near it won't cool it off that well?
Even if the case is taken apart, exposing the internal parts?

Like I said, the laptop is immobile, so I can pretty much do whatever I want to it (like adding bulky things to it, or making it take more space to air out the parts better).


If I had any cash, I would buy a desktop, but my budget doesn't really allow me to do more then save about $40-$80 a month. I could wait half a year and buy a decent desktop, but I'd rather take the quick route and overclock whats left of my laptop, so my games don't slow down as much.

Is there a way to do it with this BIOS locked computer?
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Originally Posted by RandoRisqu View Post

Putting a fan near it won't cool it off that well?
Even if the case is taken apart, exposing the internal parts?
Like I said, the laptop is immobile, so I can pretty much do whatever I want to it (like adding bulky things to it, or making it take more space to air out the parts better).
If I had any cash, I would buy a desktop, but my budget doesn't really allow me to do more then save about $40-$80 a month. I could wait half a year and buy a decent desktop, but I'd rather take the quick route and overclock whats left of my laptop, so my games don't slow down as much.
Is there a way to do it with this BIOS locked computer?

I'm sitting here with my desktop essentially cooled that way and outside of the mobo the rest of the temps only benefitted 1-3 degrees C (the mobo was 2-5C though when stressed the benefit becomes 3-6C). It's not going result in a 10 or more C drop unless you have near industrial grade fans and at that point the noise will be far too much.

With a locked BIOS and an unknown PLL (clock generator) then you could go for broke and try out a custom BIOS but that's pretty much if you had a clue on writing your own. You run the risk of ending with a bricked machine in the worst case. Considering that the Intel HD 3000/4000 included with most i-3 2000&3000 series CPUs are stronger than that 9100m I'd say save up. Right now my laptop floats around a 400USD price on newegg. It would be a significant increase for you.

What games do you play? Because that 9100m really shouldn't be able to do much.
     
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post #8 of 9
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I'm sitting here with my desktop essentially cooled that way and outside of the mobo the rest of the temps only benefitted 1-3 degrees C (the mobo was 2-5C though when stressed the benefit becomes 3-6C). It's not going result in a 10 or more C drop unless you have near industrial grade fans and at that point the noise will be far too much.
With a locked BIOS and an unknown PLL (clock generator) then you could go for broke and try out a custom BIOS but that's pretty much if you had a clue on writing your own. You run the risk of ending with a bricked machine in the worst case. Considering that the Intel HD 3000/4000 included with most i-3 2000&3000 series CPUs are stronger than that 9100m I'd say save up. Right now my laptop floats around a 400USD price on newegg. It would be a significant increase for you.
What games do you play? Because that 9100m really shouldn't be able to do much.

Hm, so taking it apart won't really do much then, I guess I could find a way to build more heat sinks or a water cooling system if I need too. Assuming I get it overclocked in the first place.

I have no clue on writing a BIOS, but I could probably learn fast how to do it, if I need to.

The games I play on this machine (with little lag on lower settings, not lowest) are Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Team Fortress 2, Minecraft, Half-Life (all 2 + expansions), and Portal.
The settings normally have medium textures, no, or full shadowing, no HDR or bloom, and at the most 2x anti-analyzing, and the game will run pretty smoothly, except when a lot of models/scripts then usual are running.
post #9 of 9
Frankly...I'd be doing you a disservice telling you there's really any point to keeping the computer you're talking about. Honestly, you need to save up. It will just work out better in the end.
     
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AthlonIIX4 640 3.62GHz (250x14.5) 2.5GHz NB Asus M4A785TD-M EVO MSI GTX275 (Stock 666) 8GBs of GSkill 1600 
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4GBs of Adata 1333 Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB WD Caviar Black 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 
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AthlonIIX4 640 3.62GHz (250x14.5) 2.5GHz NB Asus M4A785TD-M EVO MSI GTX275 (Stock 666) 8GBs of GSkill 1600 
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